From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-138516-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1SWWZv-0005ww-F5 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 21 May 2012 17:39:34 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A089E0CEA; Mon, 21 May 2012 17:38:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svr-us4.tirtonadi.com (svr-us4.tirtonadi.com [69.65.43.212]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414F3E0CDF for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 21 May 2012 17:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com ([209.85.217.181]) by svr-us4.tirtonadi.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <pandu@poluan.info>) id 1SWWXG-001pao-CE for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 22 May 2012 00:36:46 +0700 Received: by lbbgk8 with SMTP id gk8so4192200lbb.40 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 21 May 2012 10:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.54.37 with SMTP id g5mr8709542lbp.104.1337621798423; Mon, 21 May 2012 10:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.42.225 with HTTP; Mon, 21 May 2012 10:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.42.225 with HTTP; Mon, 21 May 2012 10:36:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120521131236.23d45e4e@acme7.acmenet> References: <4FB789E2.5050604@wht.com.au> <20120519141906.GA31574@badass.gateway.2wire.net> <CAMix8LFkc=cJjTp0rO5xM51AgA4fAp3LCiJfdoCL853==E4C_w@mail.gmail.com> <jpbea0$cd9$1@dough.gmane.org> <4FBA4DB1.1040006@wht.com.au> <20120521131236.23d45e4e@acme7.acmenet> Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 00:36:37 +0700 Message-ID: <CAA2qdGW4WvoUG0Do1FVSN2jMW2ortMv0bnUessSokcMHX=mkTg@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] ogg/mp3 volume From: Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec55401c6238bc104c08f58e8 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr-us4.tirtonadi.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - poluan.info X-Archives-Salt: bf94dba4-19ee-4af5-82f9-b848339def56 X-Archives-Hash: 81c292e2e20944bb1548069ed4bb9911 --bcaec55401c6238bc104c08f58e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On May 21, 2012 11:22 PM, "luis jure" <ljc@internet.com.uy> wrote: > > on 2012-05-21 at 22:14 Andrew Lowe wrote: > > > I have no intention of applying whatever process to the media machine, > > the tracks on that remain as ripped. I only want to "fiddle" the tracks > > on the memory stick. > > your files are mp3, right? what you want to do is fairly simple, just use > media-sound/mp3gain > > just direct your browser to http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/ and get some > background. i haven't found much documentation on-line, just install it and > run mp3gain -h. > > i guess this is what you need, because: > > 1. the application does not perform normalization (which would mean > decoding and re-encoding ), it only adjusts the replaygain tag in the mp3 > file; > > 2. the adjustment is not based on peak amplitude, but on the ReplayGain > "loudness" algorithm (don't know much of the details, but basically it's > RMS calculation with some psychoacoustic adjustments, based on the "lodness > curve"). > > check these options: > > -r - apply Track gain automatically (all files set to equal loudness) > -k - automatically lower Track/Album gain to not clip audio > -a - apply Album gain automatically (files are all from the same > album: a single gain change is applied to all files, so their > loudness relative to each other remains unchanged, but the average > album loudness is normalized) > Unfortunately, that only works with mp3 files. Since the OP explicitly mentions ogg, I can only recommend foobar2000. That said, if OP is willing to transcode his ogg (and flac, if any) collection to mp3, then I agree that mp3gain is the best, failsafe alternative (i.e., since it tweaks the "global gain" parameter of the mp3 file, virtually all music players will be compatible). Rgds, --bcaec55401c6238bc104c08f58e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <p><br> On May 21, 2012 11:22 PM, "luis jure" <<a href=3D"mailto:ljc@i= nternet.com.uy">ljc@internet.com.uy</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > on 2012-05-21 at 22:14 Andrew Lowe wrote:<br> ><br> > > I have no intention of applying whatever process to the media mac= hine,<br> > > the tracks on that remain as ripped. I only want to "fiddle&= quot; the tracks<br> > > on the memory stick.<br> ><br> > your files are mp3, right? what you want to do is fairly simple, just = use<br> > media-sound/mp3gain<br> ><br> > just direct your browser to <a href=3D"http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/= ">http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/</a> and get some<br> > background. i haven't found much documentation on-line, just insta= ll it and<br> > run mp3gain -h.<br> ><br> > i guess this is what you need, because:<br> ><br> > 1. the application does not perform normalization (which would mean<br= > > decoding and re-encoding ), it only adjusts the replaygain tag in the = mp3<br> > file;<br> ><br> > 2. the adjustment is not based on peak amplitude, but on the ReplayGai= n<br> > "loudness" algorithm (don't know much of the details, bu= t basically it's<br> > RMS calculation with some psychoacoustic adjustments, based on the &qu= ot;lodness<br> > curve").<br> ><br> > check these options:<br> ><br> > -r - apply Track gain automatically (all files set to equal loudness)<= br> > -k - automatically lower Track/Album gain to not clip audio<br> > -a - apply Album gain automatically (files are all from the same<br> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 album: a single gain change is applied to all files, so = their<br> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 loudness relative to each other remains unchanged, but t= he average<br> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 album loudness is normalized)<br> ></p> <p>Unfortunately, that only works with mp3 files.</p> <p>Since the OP explicitly mentions ogg, I can only recommend foobar2000.</= p> <p>That said, if OP is willing to transcode his ogg (and flac, if any) coll= ection to mp3, then I agree that mp3gain is the best, failsafe alternative = (i.e., since it tweaks the "global gain" parameter of the mp3 fil= e, virtually all music players will be compatible).</p> <p>Rgds,<br> </p> --bcaec55401c6238bc104c08f58e8--