From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S17jg-00050P-Bm for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:51:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD20DE0D49; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svr-us4.tirtonadi.com (svr-us4.tirtonadi.com [69.65.43.212]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383BFE0CB7 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vx0-f181.google.com ([209.85.220.181]) by svr-us4.tirtonadi.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S17ie-001LB2-L3 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 09:50:44 +0700 Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so2364613vcb.40 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:50:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of pandu@poluan.info designates 10.52.29.241 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.52.29.241; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pandu@poluan.info designates 10.52.29.241 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=pandu@poluan.info Received: from mr.google.com ([10.52.29.241]) by 10.52.29.241 with SMTP id n17mr2571365vdh.123.1330138242165 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:50:42 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.29.241 with SMTP id n17mr2035675vdh.123.1330138242091; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:50:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.119.85 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:50:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.119.85 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:50:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F48431F.10903@gmail.com> References: <4F45F490.2020504@waagmeester.co.za> <201202230826.00642.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <4F45FE1F.9070006@waagmeester.co.za> <20120223091734.2aa3d6d0@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <4F461983.8080100@waagmeester.co.za> <20120223130822.1a260044@khamul.example.com> <20120224221124.GB27406@badass.gateway.2wire.net> <20120224230238.03192b47@digimed.co.uk> <20120225015200.GA1513@badass.gateway.2wire.net> <4F48431F.10903@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 09:50:41 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness From: Pandu Poluan To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f36726c0b5e04b9c0f10a X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr-us4.tirtonadi.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - poluan.info X-Archives-Salt: b6cf314e-36b0-4032-b6ea-eb2f39dae546 X-Archives-Hash: 823d0e61d0ece49cc932706e7f91a13f --20cf307f36726c0b5e04b9c0f10a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Feb 25, 2012 9:16 AM, "Dale" wrote: > ---->8snip > > > That is true BUT the docs are for 100% certainty. Well, 99% at least. > They almost always have the safest way to do anything but not > necessarily the most used way. There are lots of things I do > differently from the docs and my system generally works fine, except for > the little roaches that scurry about from time to time. > > If you want a drop dead, almost as sure as the Sun comes up in the East > approach, go by the docs. If you want to save some time for most > general usage, do it the way us goofy geeks do it. Some of us know some > neat shortcuts. > > Dale > I tend to do an 'eyeball dryrun' first: start tmux, create 2 'windows', do make menuconfig of the older kernel in the first window, and start make menuconfig in the second. I quickly compare the menu structure of both to see where the implicit oldconfig might choke, do some research if necessary, and make notes. Then, I exit the newer menuconfig and cp the older .config to the newer src directory, and start make menuconfig again. I keep comparing what I'm doing against what I've done in window #1. Never had a kernel upgrade failure this way -- touch wood! Rgds, --20cf307f36726c0b5e04b9c0f10a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Feb 25, 2012 9:16 AM, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
---->8snip

>
>
> That is true BUT the docs are for 100% certainty. =C2=A0Well, 99% at l= east.
> They almost always have the safest way to do anything but not
> necessarily the most used way. =C2=A0There are lots of things I do
> differently from the docs and my system generally works fine, except f= or
> the little roaches that scurry about from time to time.
>
> If you want a drop dead, almost as sure as the Sun comes up in the Eas= t
> approach, go by the docs. =C2=A0If you want to save some time for most=
> general usage, do it the way us goofy geeks do it. =C2=A0Some of us kn= ow some
> neat shortcuts.
>
> Dale
>

I tend to do an 'eyeball dryrun' first: start tmux, create 2 = 9;windows', do make menuconfig of the older kernel in the first window,= and start make menuconfig in the second. I quickly compare the menu struct= ure of both to see where the implicit oldconfig might choke, do some resear= ch if necessary, and make notes.

Then, I exit the newer menuconfig and cp the older .config to the newer = src directory, and start make menuconfig again. I keep comparing what I'= ;m doing against what I've done in window #1.

Never had a kernel upgrade failure this way -- touch wood!

Rgds,

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