From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RYKby-0000Mx-SH for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 16:44:51 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52D1821C369; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 16:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svr-us4.tirtonadi.com (svr-us4.tirtonadi.com [69.65.43.212]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E0C21C1B3 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 16:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]) by svr-us4.tirtonadi.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYKaZ-001Ej5-VQ for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 23:43:24 +0700 Received: by wgbds1 with SMTP id ds1so1447030wgb.10 for ; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 08:43:17 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.203.10 with SMTP id fg10mr15832907wbb.1.1323276197577; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 08:43:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.103.70 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 08:43:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.103.70 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 08:43:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20111205201409.GA937@gaurahari.merseine.nu> <201112052332.24643.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20111206111531.5d5843bd@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <20111206220439.GA15412@badass.gateway.2wire.net> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 23:43:15 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse From: Pandu Poluan To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd59fe0b2425b04b3833f34 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr-us4.tirtonadi.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - poluan.info X-Archives-Salt: 7f9b54c7-7809-4f47-8a5f-5f0c047c1607 X-Archives-Hash: f11e510346643ab03cccab3ef3dc6008 --000e0cd59fe0b2425b04b3833f34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Dec 7, 2011 11:02 PM, "Grant Edwards" wrote: > > On 2011-12-07, Stroller wrote: > > > > On 6 December 2011, at 23:25, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> ... > >> The Ubuntu documentation seems to be mainly user-forum threads full of > >> wrong answers posted by people who didn't understand the question. > > > > I tried Ubuntu, hated this *so* much. > > > > I'm sure all the respondents were just trying to be helpful, but they > > made Ubuntu look like the distro of idiots. > > Ubuntu is intended to be usable by people ignorant of how Linux/Unix > works. As such, it does tend to get used by people who are ignorant > of how Linux/Unix works. Asking such a group for technical help is an > express-train to frustration -- but there doesn't really seem to be > anywhere you can ask questions of Ubuntu users who _do_ understand > things. > askubuntu.com (a part of the StackExchange network) is a good place to ask Ubuntu-related questions. Heck, the whole StackExchange sites are wonderful. I myself frequent StackOverflow (where I answer bash questions), ServerFault (mostly answering iptables questions), and SuperUser (where I ask questions). My handle in StackExchange is pepoluan. Rgds, --000e0cd59fe0b2425b04b3833f34 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Dec 7, 2011 11:02 PM, "Grant Edwards" <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 2011-12-07, Stroller <stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > On 6 December 2011, at 23:25, Grant Edwards wrote:
> >> ...
> >> The Ubuntu documentation seems to be mainly user-forum thread= s full of
> >> wrong answers posted by people who didn't understand the = question.
> >
> > I tried Ubuntu, hated this *so* much.
> >
> > I'm sure all the respondents were just trying to be helpful, = but they
> > made Ubuntu look like the distro of idiots.
>
> Ubuntu is intended to be usable by people ignorant of how Linux/Unix > works. =C2=A0As such, it does tend to get used by people who are ignor= ant
> of how Linux/Unix works. =C2=A0Asking such a group for technical help = is an
> express-train to frustration -- but there doesn't really seem to b= e
> anywhere you can ask questions of Ubuntu users who _do_ understand
> things.
>

askubuntu.com (a part of the StackE= xchange network) is a good place to ask Ubuntu-related questions. Heck, the= whole StackExchange sites are wonderful. I myself frequent StackOverflow (= where I answer bash questions), ServerFault (mostly answering iptables ques= tions), and SuperUser (where I ask questions). My handle in StackExchange i= s pepoluan.

Rgds,
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