From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RiQ58-00079Q-Ct for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:36:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2161021C02E; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 12:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svr-us4.tirtonadi.com (svr-us4.tirtonadi.com [69.65.43.212]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8865521C02E for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 12:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f41.google.com ([74.125.82.41]) by svr-us4.tirtonadi.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiQ3t-001lyg-8u for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:35:21 +0700 Received: by wgbdt12 with SMTP id dt12so22660649wgb.4 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 04:35:15 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.208.13 with SMTP id ga13mr68992129wbb.4.1325680514686; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 04:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.78.208 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 04:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.78.208 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 04:35:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F038C23.5030708@gmail.com> References: <20111115062115.GA3262@waltdnes.org> <20111121104724.GC7461@waltdnes.org> <20111201194544.GD4455@waltdnes.org> <20120103100445.GD1961@waltdnes.org> <20120103123209.GB2410@nicolas-desktop> <20120103131346.GC2410@nicolas-desktop> <20120103143120.GF2410@nicolas-desktop> <20120103221555.22c778a3@digimed.co.uk> <4F038C23.5030708@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:35:14 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 From: Pandu Poluan To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c402629df1004b5b30c41 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr-us4.tirtonadi.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - poluan.info X-Archives-Salt: 78248543-dddb-437f-b3b9-52aee61de30b X-Archives-Hash: d3227b170c3c86265a47c4c184b68cfc --0015174c402629df1004b5b30c41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Jan 4, 2012 6:19 AM, "Dale" wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:31:20 +0100, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: >> >>> I know. It's the "I want to get the rid of initramfs" thing that looks >>> crazy to me. >> >> No one is saying they want to get rid of the initramfs, because they are >> not using one. What people object to is being forced to start using one. >> >> > > You got that right. I have not used one since I started using Gentoo. Now, I may very well have to start. I hope mdev gets to a point where it works really well on desktop systems. > You were there in the thread linked by Walt, udev is just one of several packages maintained by RH people that *demands* /usr to be mounted during boot. And the RH devels insistence to deprecate /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin... I'm getting depressed. One battle might be won (mdev vs udev), but there's still a war against the RH braindeadness... Rgds, --0015174c402629df1004b5b30c41 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Jan 4, 2012 6:19 AM, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:31:20 +0100, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
>>
>>> I know. It's the "I want to get the rid of initramfs&= quot; thing that looks
>>> crazy to me.
>>
>> No one is saying they want to get rid of the initramfs, because th= ey are
>> not using one. What people object to is being forced to start usin= g one.
>>
>>
>
> You got that right. =C2=A0I have not used one since I started using Ge= ntoo. =C2=A0Now, I may very well have to start. =C2=A0I hope mdev gets to a= point where it works really well on desktop systems.
>

You were there in the thread linked by Walt, udev is just one of several= packages maintained by RH people that *demands* /usr to be mounted during = boot.

And the RH devels insistence to deprecate /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin...

I'm getting depressed. One battle might be won (mdev vs udev), but t= here's still a war against the RH braindeadness...

Rgds,

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