[gentoo-user] Gentoo counter?

[gentoo-user] Gentoo counter?

[Pandu Poluan]

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I've just read about the 'new' Linux Counter from a slashdot article, and I
wonder: is there a 'Gentoo Counter' that tracks (voluntarily, of course) the
number of active Gentoo systems in the world?

Rgds,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo counter?

[David W Noon]

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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:52:53 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote about
"[gentoo-user] Gentoo counter?":

>I've just read about the 'new' Linux Counter from a slashdot article,
>and I wonder: is there a 'Gentoo Counter' that tracks (voluntarily, of
>course) the number of active Gentoo systems in the world?

Why not just look at Linux Counter and see how many run Gentoo?

The Linux Counter collects the distro information, so there is no need
for a separate counter for each distro.

[BTW, can you ditch the HTML please?  This is an Internet mailing list,
and it has long been considered poor Netiquette to use HTML messages.
Plain text is perfectly adequate to convey information, and is much
lighter to transport and render.]
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo counter?

[Michael Mol]

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 8:30 AM, David W Noon <dwnoon@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> [BTW, can you ditch the HTML please?  This is an Internet mailing list,
> and it has long been considered poor Netiquette to use HTML messages.
> Plain text is perfectly adequate to convey information, and is much
> lighter to transport and render.]

Can't you just configure your mail client to discard the HTML part in
the multipart message?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo counter?

[David W Noon]

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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 08:35:40 -0400, Michael Mol wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] Gentoo counter?:

> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 8:30 AM, David W Noon <dwnoon@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
> > [BTW, can you ditch the HTML please?  This is an Internet mailing
> > list, and it has long been considered poor Netiquette to use HTML
> > messages. Plain text is perfectly adequate to convey information,
> > and is much lighter to transport and render.]
> 
> Can't you just configure your mail client to discard the HTML part in
> the multipart message?

I can, but not all messages have a plain text part. ... :-(

Moreover, that does not reduce the additional bandwidth required
compared with plain text messages.
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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo counter?

[Pandu Poluan]

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On Sunday, September 11, 2011, David W Noon <dwnoon@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:52:53 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote about
> "[gentoo-user] Gentoo counter?":
>
>>I've just read about the 'new' Linux Counter from a slashdot article,
>>and I wonder: is there a 'Gentoo Counter' that tracks (voluntarily, of
>>course) the number of active Gentoo systems in the world?
>
> Why not just look at Linux Counter and see how many run Gentoo?
>
> The Linux Counter collects the distro information, so there is no need
> for a separate counter for each distro.
>
> [BTW, can you ditch the HTML please?  This is an Internet mailing list,
> and it has long been considered poor Netiquette to use HTML messages.
> Plain text is perfectly adequate to convey information, and is much
> lighter to transport and render.]
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave  [RLU #314465]

Eh? Sorry about the HTML bits; Android's Gmail client doesn't seem to be
configurable about that.

Currently I'm typing this reply using Gmail webmail via Dolphin; does it
still have the HTML part?

Rgds,



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo counter?

[András Csányi]

On 11 September 2011 14:43, Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:
>
> Eh? Sorry about the HTML bits; Android's Gmail client doesn't seem to be
> configurable about that.

Android client is not able to handle plain/text emails. :(

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo counter?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:50:25 +0200
András Csányi <sayusi.ando@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11 September 2011 14:43, Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:
> >
> > Eh? Sorry about the HTML bits; Android's Gmail client doesn't seem
> > to be configurable about that.
> 
> Android client is not able to handle plain/text emails. :(
> 

It's also almost impossible to NOT top-post with these mobile clients.
I'm surprised Pandu managed it.

K9Mail on Android is a fine substitute, it behaves more like the regular
clients we are all used to.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo counter?

[Pandu Poluan]

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 20:05, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:50:25 +0200
> András Csányi <sayusi.ando@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11 September 2011 14:43, Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:
>> >
>> > Eh? Sorry about the HTML bits; Android's Gmail client doesn't seem
>> > to be configurable about that.
>>
>> Android client is not able to handle plain/text emails. :(
>>
>
> It's also almost impossible to NOT top-post with these mobile clients.
> I'm surprised Pandu managed it.
>

The Gmail Android client (at least the one on the Sammy GalAce) is
capable of bottom-posting. Of course I have to spend some time to
scroll down, but it's doable. Albeit somewhat annoying.

> K9Mail on Android is a fine substitute, it behaves more like the regular
> clients we are all used to.
>

I miss the threaded view, though :-(

Rgds,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo counter?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:11:27 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:

> > K9Mail on Android is a fine substitute, it behaves more like the
> > regular clients we are all used to.
> >  
> 
> I miss the threaded view, though :-(

I would say this is the single greatest failing of K9Mail.

Having started using it on a tablet/netbook, which is much more realistic
for email, the deficiencies of some of the Android software are really
starting to show.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo counter?

[Pandu Poluan]

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 19:50, András Csányi <sayusi.ando@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11 September 2011 14:43, Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:
>>
>> Eh? Sorry about the HTML bits; Android's Gmail client doesn't seem to be
>> configurable about that.
>
> Android client is not able to handle plain/text emails. :(
>
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> --  ""Trust in God and keep your gunpowder dry!" - Cromwell
>

Yeah, found that out with a bit of Google-fu.

Now I'm typing from my PC using the full-bore Gmail.

No more HTML bits, I hope.

But this means I practically can't reply to this list when I'm on the road:

*) Gmail Java Mobile client (on my E72) can post in plaintext, but
only as a top-post.

*) Gmail Android client (on my Samsung Galaxy Ace) can bottom-post,
but also sends an HTML part.

*) Gmail webmail client -- when accessed via Dolphin -- also sends an
HTML part. (Just saw my reply sent using Dolphin)

*) K9 Mail *can* send plaintext messages, but it can't install itself
on the SD card, so I have to delete it (my Sammy's internal memory is
a measly 158 MB; I'd rather not install anything not abso-effin-lutely
essential into the internal memory)

So, I'm in a bit of quandary now.

Oh well.

Rgds,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo counter?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:08:17 +0700
Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 19:50, András Csányi <sayusi.ando@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On 11 September 2011 14:43, Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:
> >>
> >> Eh? Sorry about the HTML bits; Android's Gmail client doesn't seem
> >> to be configurable about that.
> >
> > Android client is not able to handle plain/text emails. :(
> >
> > --
> > - -
> > --  Csanyi Andras (Sayusi Ando)  -- http://sayusi.hu --
> > http://facebook.com/andras.csanyi
> > --  ""Trust in God and keep your gunpowder dry!" - Cromwell
> >
> 
> Yeah, found that out with a bit of Google-fu.
> 
> Now I'm typing from my PC using the full-bore Gmail.
> 
> No more HTML bits, I hope.
> 
> But this means I practically can't reply to this list when I'm on the
> road:
> 
> *) Gmail Java Mobile client (on my E72) can post in plaintext, but
> only as a top-post.
> 
> *) Gmail Android client (on my Samsung Galaxy Ace) can bottom-post,
> but also sends an HTML part.
> 
> *) Gmail webmail client -- when accessed via Dolphin -- also sends an
> HTML part. (Just saw my reply sent using Dolphin)
> 
> *) K9 Mail *can* send plaintext messages, but it can't install itself
> on the SD card, so I have to delete it (my Sammy's internal memory is
> a measly 158 MB; I'd rather not install anything not abso-effin-lutely
> essential into the internal memory)
> 
> So, I'm in a bit of quandary now.

Folks here are quite understanding about phone mail apps. It was rough
at first but once everyone "got it" that you have little choice....

Best is to put a short note in your sig saying you can't avoid HTML
top-posted gmail on Android. People learn to deal with it. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo counter?

[Alan Mackenzie]

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 01:30:12PM +0100, David W Noon wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:52:53 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote about

> [BTW, can you ditch the HTML please?  This is an Internet mailing list,
> and it has long been considered poor Netiquette to use HTML messages.
> Plain text is perfectly adequate to convey information, and is much
> lighter to transport and render.]

Yes, just think of the space it will soon be taking on the / partition  
or the initramfs.  ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo counter?

[Pandu Poluan]

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 21:20, Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 01:30:12PM +0100, David W Noon wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:52:53 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote about
>
>> [BTW, can you ditch the HTML please?  This is an Internet mailing list,
>> and it has long been considered poor Netiquette to use HTML messages.
>> Plain text is perfectly adequate to convey information, and is much
>> lighter to transport and render.]
>
> Yes, just think of the space it will soon be taking on the / partition
> or the initramfs.  ;-)
>

LOL

Well, if udev is so powerful as to the handler for all events, why not
have it strip out incoming HTML parts also ;-)

(And if udev's dev even considering to *think* on that, I swear I'll
fly to wherever he lives and throttles him).

((It's a joke, people :-P ))

Rgds,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo counter?

[BRM]

Well...to get back on topic...



----- Original Message -----
> From: David W Noon <dwnoon@ntlworld.com>
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:52:53 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote about
> "[gentoo-user] Gentoo counter?":
> 
>> I've just read about the 'new' Linux Counter from a slashdot 
> article,
>> and I wonder: is there a 'Gentoo Counter' that tracks (voluntarily, 
> of
>> course) the number of active Gentoo systems in the world?
> 
> Why not just look at Linux Counter and see how many run Gentoo?
> 
> The Linux Counter collects the distro information, so there is no need
> for a separate counter for each distro.
> 

Linux Counter is but one of several projects trying to do that. It is perhaps the more well known and more public.
According to Wikipedia there is also another big project lead by Fedora called Smolt, which is also available in Gentoo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smolt_%28Linux%29

Now, I don't now if the Gentoo folks patched Smolt to report to Gentoo infrastructure instead of Fedora infrastructure (probably a good thing to do).
And I haven't tried it myself (yet) - though I do have LinuxCounter listings for most of my systems (not automatically updated).

$0.02

Ben