From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R2Qa8-0003Yn-9K for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:39:04 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B79921C226; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svr-us4.tirtonadi.com (unknown [69.65.43.212]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A4521C1CD for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com ([209.85.161.53]) by svr-us4.tirtonadi.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2QYA-004MCM-NU for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:37:02 +0700 Received: by fxh2 with SMTP id 2so177857fxh.40 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 09:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.8.81 with SMTP id g17mr432162fag.74.1315672618099; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 09:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.95.207 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 09:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.95.207 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 09:36:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201108191109.34984.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20110910093659.2f2fdf58@rohan> <201109101124.15694.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <4E6B8BB8.7040103@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:36:57 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot From: Pandu Poluan To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174480e20ae3a204ac98e7d9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr-us4.tirtonadi.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - poluan.info X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 1c556e422ef46fe9ef0fcf4dd2481c83 --0015174480e20ae3a204ac98e7d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sep 10, 2011 11:22 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote: > > As I understand it, nothing of udev itself is in /usr, but instead > packages and scripts which plug themselves into udev to be triggered > by various events. > > Perhaps the real solution is to circumvent udev and get those other > packages and scripts to not put hotplug-active files under /usr. > Agree with both your points. udev *should* refuse accessing anything under /usr if it's still in the sysinit phase. After all, that's what the FHS assumed (/usr does not contain anything required during boot) IIRC, one of the most vocal designer of the FHS is Red Hat; if the dev of udev is also Red Hat-related, shouldn't he at least try to follow FHS's philosophy? Rgds, --0015174480e20ae3a204ac98e7d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8


On Sep 10, 2011 11:22 PM, "Michael Mol" <mikemol@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As I understand it, nothing of udev itself is in /usr, but instead
> packages and scripts which plug themselves into udev to be triggered
> by various events.
>
> Perhaps the real solution is to circumvent udev and get those other
> packages and scripts to not put hotplug-active files under /usr.
>

Agree with both your points.

udev *should* refuse accessing anything under /usr if it's still in the sysinit phase. After all, that's what the FHS assumed (/usr does not contain anything required during boot)

IIRC, one of the most vocal designer of the FHS is Red Hat; if the dev of udev is also Red Hat-related, shouldn't he at least try to follow FHS's philosophy?

Rgds,

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