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From: Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Fighting bit rot
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 00:41:31 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA2qdGUn8pf4WKsKugFeY20aXrciyQiwpigGVs+5xkjW4hbBsQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50EC4660.5090208@binarywings.net>

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On Jan 8, 2013 11:20 PM, "Florian Philipp" <lists@binarywings.net> wrote:
>

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>
> Hmm, good idea, albeit similar to the `md5sum -c`. Either tool leaves
> you with the problem of distinguishing between legitimate changes (i.e.
> a user wrote to the file) and decay.
>
> When you have completely static content, md5sum, rsync and friends are
> sufficient. But if you have content that changes from time to time, the
> number of false-positives would be too high. In this case, I think you
> could easily distinguish by comparing both file content and time stamps.
>
> Now, that of course introduces the problem that decay could occur in the
> same time frame as a legitimate change, thus masking the decay. To
> reduce this risk, you have to reduce the checking interval.
>
> Regards,
> Florian Philipp
>

IMO, we're all barking up the wrong tree here...

Before a file's content can change without user involvement, bit rot must
first get through the checksum (CRC?) of the hard disk itself. There will
be no 'gradual degradation of data', just 'catastrophic data loss'.

I would rather focus my efforts on ensuring that my backups are always
restorable, at least until the most recent time of archival.

Rgds,
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-08 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-07 20:11 [gentoo-user] OT: Fighting bit rot Florian Philipp
2013-01-07 21:07 ` Paul Hartman
2013-01-07 22:05   ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-07 21:33 ` Michael Mol
2013-01-07 22:10   ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-07 23:20 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08  7:27   ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-08  7:55     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 16:16       ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-08 16:42         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 17:41         ` Pandu Poluan [this message]
2013-01-08 19:02           ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-09  2:55             ` Pandu Poluan
2013-01-08 19:53           ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2013-01-08 20:30             ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-08 21:45             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 22:15               ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-08 23:37                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-09  2:47                   ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-09  8:31                     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-09 14:48                       ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-09 15:36                         ` Holger Hoffstaette
2013-01-09 16:32                           ` Pandu Poluan
2013-01-09 16:42                           ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-09 20:52                         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-09 20:53                         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 15:29     ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-08 15:42       ` Michael Mol
2013-01-08 16:28         ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-08 17:35     ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-01-08 19:06       ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-08 20:57         ` Joshua Murphy
2013-01-08 21:49         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 19:11       ` [gentoo-user] " James
2013-01-09  4:40         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-01-09 15:17           ` walt
2013-01-09 18:57             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-01-09  0:12     ` [gentoo-user] " Randy Barlow
2013-01-07 23:31 ` William Kenworthy

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