From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-128934-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1R8Ny9-00061L-8s for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 03:04:29 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F07D21C0D5; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 03:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svr-us4.tirtonadi.com (unknown [69.65.43.212]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E319F21C28E for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 03:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com ([209.85.161.53]) by svr-us4.tirtonadi.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <pandu@poluan.info>) id 1R8Nwy-00122K-59 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:03:16 +0700 Received: by fxh2 with SMTP id 2so7463029fxh.40 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.43.211 with SMTP id x19mr2483140fae.142.1317092591868; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.74.196 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.74.196 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:03:11 +0700 Message-ID: <CAA2qdGUdFiLA-YWh2A49Z3OTuaGCs0BDSMwiW0TNUhXd1f5vVw@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration? From: Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> To: Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> Cc: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174763da131cec04ade38472 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr-us4.tirtonadi.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - poluan.info X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 7ecb433807d8253a58756e6ae3482cc6 --0015174763da131cec04ade38472 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sep 27, 2011 9:57 AM, "Pandu Poluan" <pandu@poluan.info> wrote: > > > On Sep 27, 2011 9:51 AM, <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote: > > > > > > James Broadhead <jamesbroadhead@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 26 September 2011 03:19, Paul Hartman < paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Or skip the net config/init scripts stuff and just use something like wicd. > > > > > > Getting a manager to write your wpa_supplicant.conf for you (in > > > effect), has been the right way of configuring wifi for the average > > > user for years now. It's a real shame that this isn't promoted more in > > > the gentoo handbook and/or the Wifi guide. > > > > > > I added a patch to the wifi guide a while back, but I really find the > > > gentoo documentation workflow so over-burdening that I usually work on > > > gentoo-wiki instead. It's pretty dispiriting to see people using > > > troublesome tools when there's better ways out there :( > > > > If I am correct, wic only works if you have gnome -- what if you have a > > server or a computer without gnome or kde? > > > > The homepage says that a GUI is not needed, one can use wicd-curses to manage things interactively. > > That said, servers really shouldn't have any wlan* interface. Especially enterprise-y ones. > > For servers, init.d hacking should be more suitable. Ah yes, the Gentoo handbook explicitly states: Note: wicd offers a command line utility in addition to the main graphical interface. You can get it by emerging wicd with the ncurses USE flag set. This wicd-curses utility is particularly useful for folks who don't use a gtk-based desktop environment, but still want an easy command line tool that doesn't require hand-editing configuration files. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4&chap=4 Rgds, --0015174763da131cec04ade38472 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <p><br> On Sep 27, 2011 9:57 AM, "Pandu Poluan" <<a href=3D"mailto:pan= du@poluan.info">pandu@poluan.info</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> ><br> > On Sep 27, 2011 9:51 AM, <<a href=3D"mailto:covici@ccs.covici.com">= covici@ccs.covici.com</a>> wrote:<br> > ><br> > ><br> > > James Broadhead <<a href=3D"mailto:jamesbroadhead@gmail.com">j= amesbroadhead@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > ><br> > > > On 26 September 2011 03:19, Paul Hartman <<a href=3D"mail= to:paul.hartman%2Bgentoo@gmail.com">paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com</a>> w= rote:<br> > > > > Or skip the net config/init scripts stuff and just use = something like wicd.<br> > > ><br> > > > Getting a manager to write your wpa_supplicant.conf for you = (in<br> > > > effect), has been the right way of configuring wifi for the = average<br> > > > user for years now. It's a real shame that this isn'= t promoted more in<br> > > > the gentoo handbook and/or the Wifi guide.<br> > > ><br> > > > I added a patch to the wifi guide a while back, but I really= find the<br> > > > gentoo documentation workflow so over-burdening that I usual= ly work on<br> > > > gentoo-wiki instead. It's pretty dispiriting to see peop= le using<br> > > > troublesome tools when there's better ways out there :(<= br> > ><br> > > If I am correct, wic only works if you have gnome -- what if you = have a<br> > > server or a computer without gnome or kde?<br> > ><br> ><br> > The homepage says that a GUI is not needed, one can use wicd-curses to= manage things interactively.<br> ><br> > That said, servers really shouldn't have any wlan* interface. Espe= cially enterprise-y ones.<br> ><br> > For servers, init.d hacking should be more suitable.</p> <p>Ah yes, the Gentoo handbook explicitly states:</p> <p>Note: wicd offers a command line utility in addition to the main graphic= al interface. You can get it by emerging wicd with the ncurses USE flag set= . This wicd-curses utility is particularly useful for folks who don't u= se a gtk-based desktop environment, but still want an easy command line too= l that doesn't require hand-editing configuration files.</p> <p><a href=3D"http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part= =3D4&chap=3D4">http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?p= art=3D4&chap=3D4</a></p> <p>Rgds,<br> </p> --0015174763da131cec04ade38472--