From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RQMR0-0000wU-9e for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:04:34 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E76B21C101; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svr-us4.tirtonadi.com (svr-us4.tirtonadi.com [69.65.43.212]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A591321C104 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com ([209.85.214.53]) by svr-us4.tirtonadi.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQMPs-000M3X-3f for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:03:24 +0700 Received: by bkaq10 with SMTP id q10so9318915bka.40 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:03:17 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.148.4 with SMTP id n4mr25119997bkv.42.1321376597525; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:03:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.74.16 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:03:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.74.16 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:03:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111115181620.274ef9a8@rohan.example.com> References: <20111115062115.GA3262@waltdnes.org> <20111115181620.274ef9a8@rohan.example.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:03:17 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody want to beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev? From: Pandu Poluan To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bf02cb5c39804b1c8f667 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr-us4.tirtonadi.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - poluan.info X-Archives-Salt: 8aaccf56-cde7-4f1e-a063-2ca56084076d X-Archives-Hash: 63a2fd121050ead34651d556b9a2bbaa --0015174bf02cb5c39804b1c8f667 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Nov 15, 2011 11:19 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:44:58 +0700 > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > > Create the file if it doesn't already exist. You now have a > > > totally udev-free machine > > > > > > > Sounds nice! > > > > However, my Gentoo systems are all virtual servers (DomU VMs on > > XenServer). So, the hardware devices are static. Will switching over > > to mdev give any benefits? > > > > I even am toying around with the idea of having a completely > > static /dev, but still can't find any guide/pointers yet. > > > > (Apologies if my email is OOT) > > > > A VM can be surprisingly useful for this. If you can emulate different > hardware you can generate useful testing scenarios quickly. The tests > won't be conclusive (emulated hardware is not the same thing as real > hardware) but you *can* test to a standard. > True. Unfortunately, I don't have 'exotic' hardware to test mdev against, and USB pass-through is not yet supported on XenServer 5.6 (which I'm using right now). I can try it inside VirtualBox on my Windows workstation though. Will that help? Rgds, --0015174bf02cb5c39804b1c8f667 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Nov 15, 2011 11:19 PM, "Alan McKinnon" <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:44:58 +0700
> Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.inf= o> wrote:
>
> > > =C2=A0Create the file if it doesn't already exist. =C2= =A0You now have a
> > > totally udev-free machine
> > >
> >
> > Sounds nice!
> >
> > However, my Gentoo systems are all virtual servers (DomU VMs on > > XenServer). So, the hardware devices are static. Will switching o= ver
> > to mdev give any benefits?
> >
> > I even am toying around with the idea of having a completely
> > static /dev, but still can't find any guide/pointers yet.
> >
> > (Apologies if my email is OOT)
> >
>
> A VM can be surprisingly useful for this. If you can emulate different=
> hardware you can generate useful testing scenarios quickly. The tests<= br> > won't be conclusive (emulated hardware is not the same thing as re= al
> hardware) but you *can* test to a standard.
>

True. Unfortunately, I don't have 'exotic' hardware to test = mdev against, and USB pass-through is not yet supported on XenServer 5.6 (w= hich I'm using right now).

I can try it inside VirtualBox on my Windows workstation though. Will th= at help?

Rgds,

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