[gentoo-user] Install problem - SATA CD-ROM drive

[gentoo-user] Install problem - SATA CD-ROM drive

[Paul Colquhoun]

I've just started building a new system from scratch, and have run into a 
problem.

The motherboard only has SATA and USB conectors, no legacy IDE/PATA/FDD/etc 
connectors at all.

The problem is that all 4 of the Live CDs I have tried fail to boot 
completely.

All of them bring up the initial menus, then run the kernel, but then fail at 
the same point, which is when they attempt to (re)mount the filesystems from 
the CD, which they all claim not to be able to find.

Selecting a shell at this point shows that there are no /dev/sr? devices 
detected, and all the /dev/sd? devices correspont to hard drives.

Some research tells me that this is a problem with SATA CD-ROMs, and needs a 
kernel configured with the libata module option atapi_enabled=1

Does anybody know of a Live CD that will work with a SATA CD drive?

The other option I am exploring is borrowing a USB CD drive to see if that 
will work. 

All I need it for is the initial bootstrap into Gentoo.

With the growing trend of SATA-only motherboards, I hope there is at least 1 
Live CD out there that works.

The Live CD versions that I have tried are:
Sabayon Awsome 7
Kubuntu 11.10
Fedora-16
SystemRescueCD 2.4.0

P.S.  This is an AMD64 motherboard, so a 64 bit kernel is needed.

Thanks.


-- 
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, ULC.    http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol
 Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes.
Then, when you do, you'll be a mile away, and you'll have their shoes.

Re: [gentoo-user] Install problem - SATA CD-ROM drive

[Albert W. Hopkins]

On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 11:01 +1100, Paul Colquhoun wrote:
> Some research tells me that this is a problem with SATA CD-ROMs, and
> needs a 
> kernel configured with the libata module option atapi_enabled=1
> 
> Does anybody know of a Live CD that will work with a SATA CD drive? 

AFAIK most (all) modern computers that have CDROM drives are SATA, at
least the one i bought a couple of years ago does.. so I'm wondering if
your problem is not that you have a SATA CDROM but something else.

Have you tried boot media other than the Gentoo livecd?

Re: [gentoo-user] Install problem - SATA CD-ROM drive (SOLVED)

[Paul Colquhoun]

On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:28:50 PM Albert W. Hopkins wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 11:01 +1100, Paul Colquhoun wrote:
> > Some research tells me that this is a problem with SATA CD-ROMs, and
> > needs a
> > kernel configured with the libata module option atapi_enabled=1
> > 
> > Does anybody know of a Live CD that will work with a SATA CD drive?
> 
> AFAIK most (all) modern computers that have CDROM drives are SATA, at
> least the one i bought a couple of years ago does.. so I'm wondering if
> your problem is not that you have a SATA CDROM but something else.
> 
> Have you tried boot media other than the Gentoo livecd?


Actually I had tried 4 boot media *other* *than* the Gentoo livecd, for the 
simple reason that I thought they had stopped making them!

Stupid me.

Looking at the Gentoo download page, they have an AMD64 minimal install CD 
image created just days ago.

The Gentoo livecd works!  I should have looked there first and saved myself a 
lot of trouble (and 4 blank CDs!).


-- 
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, ULC.    http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol
 Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes.
Then, when you do, you'll be a mile away, and you'll have their shoes.

Re: [gentoo-user] Install problem - SATA CD-ROM drive (SOLVED)

[Dale]

Paul Colquhoun wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:28:50 PM Albert W. Hopkins wrote:
>> On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 11:01 +1100, Paul Colquhoun wrote:
>>> Some research tells me that this is a problem with SATA CD-ROMs, and
>>> needs a
>>> kernel configured with the libata module option atapi_enabled=1
>>>
>>> Does anybody know of a Live CD that will work with a SATA CD drive?
>> AFAIK most (all) modern computers that have CDROM drives are SATA, at
>> least the one i bought a couple of years ago does.. so I'm wondering if
>> your problem is not that you have a SATA CDROM but something else.
>>
>> Have you tried boot media other than the Gentoo livecd?
>
> Actually I had tried 4 boot media *other* *than* the Gentoo livecd, for the
> simple reason that I thought they had stopped making them!
>
> Stupid me.
>
> Looking at the Gentoo download page, they have an AMD64 minimal install CD
> image created just days ago.
>
> The Gentoo livecd works!  I should have looked there first and saved myself a
> lot of trouble (and 4 blank CDs!).
>
>


Could it be something in the BIOS maybe?  My rig that I built last year 
has a SATA CD/DVD burner and it boots Gentoo CDs, Knoppix, systemrescue 
and another that I can't recall.  Knotix (?) or something.  It should 
work.  You may want to try systemrescue if you haven't already.  I'd 
figure this out before something happens and you have to boot something 
to fix it.

Dale

:-)  :-)

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-user] Install problem - SATA CD-ROM drive (SOLVED)

[Paul Colquhoun]

On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 11:29:16 PM Dale wrote:
> Paul Colquhoun wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:28:50 PM Albert W. Hopkins wrote:
> >> On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 11:01 +1100, Paul Colquhoun wrote:
> >>> Some research tells me that this is a problem with SATA CD-ROMs, and
> >>> needs a
> >>> kernel configured with the libata module option atapi_enabled=1
> >>> 
> >>> Does anybody know of a Live CD that will work with a SATA CD drive?
> >> 
> >> AFAIK most (all) modern computers that have CDROM drives are SATA, at
> >> least the one i bought a couple of years ago does.. so I'm wondering
> >> if
> >> your problem is not that you have a SATA CDROM but something else.
> >> 
> >> Have you tried boot media other than the Gentoo livecd?
> > 
> > Actually I had tried 4 boot media *other* *than* the Gentoo livecd, for
> > the simple reason that I thought they had stopped making them!
> > 
> > Stupid me.
> > 
> > Looking at the Gentoo download page, they have an AMD64 minimal install
> > CD image created just days ago.
> > 
> > The Gentoo livecd works!  I should have looked there first and saved
> > myself a lot of trouble (and 4 blank CDs!).
> 
> Could it be something in the BIOS maybe?  My rig that I built last year
> has a SATA CD/DVD burner and it boots Gentoo CDs, Knoppix, systemrescue
> and another that I can't recall.  Knotix (?) or something.  It should
> work.  You may want to try systemrescue if you haven't already.  I'd
> figure this out before something happens and you have to boot something
> to fix it.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)


It may be something in the BIOS, but I didn't change anything between the 
other livecds NOT working, and the Gentoo one working, so the Gentoo livecd 
seems to have done something different.


-- 
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, ULC.    http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol
 Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes.
Then, when you do, you'll be a mile away, and you'll have their shoes.

Re: [gentoo-user] Install problem - SATA CD-ROM drive (SOLVED)

[Rod]

 On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:36:56 +1100, Paul Colquhoun 
 <paulcol@andor.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 11:29:16 PM Dale wrote:
>> Paul Colquhoun wrote:
>> > On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:28:50 PM Albert W. Hopkins wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 11:01 +1100, Paul Colquhoun wrote:
>> >>> Some research tells me that this is a problem with SATA CD-ROMs, 
>> and
>> >>> needs a
>> >>> kernel configured with the libata module option atapi_enabled=1
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anybody know of a Live CD that will work with a SATA CD 
>> drive?
>> >>
>> >> AFAIK most (all) modern computers that have CDROM drives are 
>> SATA, at
>> >> least the one i bought a couple of years ago does.. so I'm 
>> wondering
>> >> if
>> >> your problem is not that you have a SATA CDROM but something 
>> else.
>> >>
>> >> Have you tried boot media other than the Gentoo livecd?
>> >
>> > Actually I had tried 4 boot media *other* *than* the Gentoo 
>> livecd, for
>> > the simple reason that I thought they had stopped making them!
>> >
>> > Stupid me.
>> >
>> > Looking at the Gentoo download page, they have an AMD64 minimal 
>> install
>> > CD image created just days ago.
>> >
>> > The Gentoo livecd works!  I should have looked there first and 
>> saved
>> > myself a lot of trouble (and 4 blank CDs!).
>>
>> Could it be something in the BIOS maybe?  My rig that I built last 
>> year
>> has a SATA CD/DVD burner and it boots Gentoo CDs, Knoppix, 
>> systemrescue
>> and another that I can't recall.  Knotix (?) or something.  It 
>> should
>> work.  You may want to try systemrescue if you haven't already.  I'd
>> figure this out before something happens and you have to boot 
>> something
>> to fix it.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>
>
> It may be something in the BIOS, but I didn't change anything between 
> the
> other livecds NOT working, and the Gentoo one working, so the Gentoo 
> livecd
> seems to have done something different.

 I have been running SATA-DVD drive (ok not CD) for a few years with no 
 problems with reading or writing from either Gentoo-Linux or Windoze

Re: [gentoo-user] Install problem - SATA CD-ROM drive

[James Broadhead]

On 26 November 2011 00:28, Albert W. Hopkins <marduk@letterboxes.org> wrote:
> Have you tried boot media other than the Gentoo livecd?

I see that you have tried the SysRescueCD - have you tried the vanilla
Gentoo LiveCD? I find that it is usually pretty resilient.

In the past, I've found enabling legacy_ide mode helpful -- can't
remember the exact line, but that's enough to start googling :)

J