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From: Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:10:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+czFiDkgYRFneDPmNEAnfC3VDfHm1+hFMFX4u=-RjLq9V_E=w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA2qdGXM3TQwddDOZTkPYYeVxWxzjvspuRVKucQ0wZom0DnZfQ@mail.gmail.com>

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(Sorry for the top-post...I'm mobile atm.)

My understanding is that core network operators filter ASs for which they
don't have a contract for transit. I.e, if I were to get my own PI space,
I'd have to pay tier 1 networks (or pay someone to ride on *their*
contract) for a contract to have packets destined for my AS to be able to
reach me across their network.

ZZ
On Feb 18, 2012 1:04 PM, "Pandu Poluan" <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 23:18, Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
> ---- >8 snippage
>
> >
> > And it's not so easy to take the Internet down with injected BGP
> > routes any more, either; most network operators apply some sort of
> > filtering.
> >
>
> Yes, there *are* filters against injecting BGP from non-trusted sources.
>
> But if the government somehow controls a Network Service Provider
> (NSP, the maintainers of Internet backbones), they can easily poison
> the BGP updates. Routers connected to the NSP will happily accept the
> poisoned updates since they rely on the NSP to provide "big picture"
> traffic management.
>
> Rgds,
> --
> FdS Pandu E Poluan
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>
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-18 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-18 10:26 [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess? Dale
2012-02-18 10:44 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-02-18 12:00   ` Dale
2012-02-18 12:24     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-02-18 12:39       ` Dale
2012-02-18 14:40         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-02-18 15:34           ` Dale
2012-02-18 16:18             ` Michael Mol
2012-02-18 17:48               ` Dale
2012-02-18 18:01               ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-18 18:10                 ` Michael Mol [this message]
2012-02-18 19:02                   ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-18 16:21         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-02-18 16:31           ` Michael Mol
2012-02-18 12:56       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-18 13:18         ` Dale
2012-02-18 13:49           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-18 14:38           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-02-19 21:08           ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-02-19 21:23             ` Paul Hartman
2012-02-19 22:16               ` Dale
2012-02-20 16:12             ` Todd Goodman
2012-02-20 20:49               ` Grant Edwards
2012-02-20 21:04                 ` Michael Mol
2012-02-20 21:16                   ` Mark Knecht
2012-02-20 21:24                     ` Michael Mol
2012-02-20 21:52                   ` Grant Edwards
2012-02-21  5:30                   ` Paul Hartman
2012-02-18 14:30       ` [gentoo-user] " pk
2012-02-21  3:58         ` Walter Dnes
2012-02-18 14:36     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-02-18 18:11       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-18 18:24         ` Michael Mol
2012-02-18 19:10           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-18 16:35 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-02-19 21:14   ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-02-19 23:29     ` wdk@moriah
2012-02-20 16:37       ` Todd Goodman

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