From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-131777-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1RVScg-0002TN-EJ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:41:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78D8021C111; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B3421C04B for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkaq10 with SMTP id q10so12304011bka.40 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:39:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BW3kknjIo3h1yRaD4Hfre1qnToRQkj5yN1qRPm31Kp4=; b=nuF444kBk3J6SRSKKiyJUYIfo+gukhaZTG86kFtot6+7z6O91H9fKpbXIBFJgz3zop a2uDx04EeJUybuIFzLDoYtHr+T248i3ivhIhfy4TojkFnfNR9pYFe1wO6VcnmyhkWzjq sVg8TQW6y69cP5R1HTEjHHySDWdoJ0egksQ24= Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.0.82 with SMTP id 18mr33176357bka.86.1322591985545; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:39:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.14.7 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:39:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4ED52277.4060304@binarywings.net> References: <CA+czFiAKcdXs6zJvQOKhZ09eECru3C6eHUfSADkchdvFKTa=vA@mail.gmail.com> <4ED484B5.4030700@binarywings.net> <CA+czFiDydR=iBb9=-g2ooWEohFeEgAT52vpiXEeLDiM_Ffo9Sg@mail.gmail.com> <4ED52277.4060304@binarywings.net> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:39:45 -0500 Message-ID: <CA+czFiDO6cqs=2LWRbZWg_v2KDaCbu+JaSbB4_gGpY7BFdvJZg@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] dmraid, mdraid, lvm, btrfs, what? From: Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 2b25939a-f627-4da9-97cc-625e84a08988 X-Archives-Hash: 5652e5e79918a7ab3c55df8dea8b8136 On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Florian Philipp <lists@binarywings.net> wr= ote: > Am 29.11.2011 14:44, schrieb Michael Mol: >> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Florian Philipp <lists@binarywings.net>= wrote: >>> Am 29.11.2011 05:10, schrieb Michael Mol: >>>> I've got four 750GB drives in addition to the installed system drive. >>>> >>>> I'd like to aggregate them and split them into a few volumes. My first >>>> inclination would be to raid them and drop lvm on top. =C2=A0I know lv= m well >>>> enough, but I don't remember md that well. >>>> >>>> Since I don't recall md well, and this isn't urgent, I figure I can lo= ok >>>> at the options. >>>> >>>> The obvious ones appear tobe mdraid, dmraid and btrfs. I'm not sure I'= m >>>> interested in btrfs until it's got a fsck that will repair errors, but >>>> I'm looking forward to it once it's ready. >>>> >>>> Any options I missed? What are the advantages and disadvantages? >>>> >>>> ZZ >>>> >>> >>> Sounds good so far. Of course, you only need mdraid OR dmraid (md >>> recommended). >> >> dmraid looks rather new on the block. Or, at least, I've been more >> aware of md than dm over the years. What's its purpose, as compared to >> dmraid? Why is mdraid recommended over it? >> > > dmraid being new? Not really. Anyway: Under the hood, md and dm use the > exactly same code in the kernel. They just provide different interfaces. > mdraid is a linux-specific software RAID implemented on top of ordinary > single-disk disk controllers. It works like a charm and any Linux system > with any disk controller can work with it (if you ever change your > hardware). > > dmraid provides a "fake-RAID": A software RAID with support of (or > rather, under control of) a cheap on-board RAID controller. > Performance-wise, it usually doesn't provide any kind of advantage > because the kernel driver still has to do all the heavy lifting > (therefore it uses the same code base as mdraid). Its most important > disadvantage is that it binds you to the vendor of the chipset who > determines the on-disk layout. Apparently, this gets better in the last > few years because of some pretty major consolidations on the chipset > market. It might be helpful if you consider dual-booting Windows on the > same RAID (both systems ought to use the same disk layout by means of > their respective drivers). > > >>> What kind of RAID level do you want to use, 10 or 5? You >>> can also split it: Use a smaller RAID 10 for performance-critical >>> partitions like /usr and the more space-efficient RAID 5 for bulk like >>> videos. You can handle this with one LVM volume group consisting of two >>> physical volumes. Then you can decide on a per-logical-volume basis >>> where it should allocate space and also migrate LVs between the two PVs= . >> >> Since I've got four disks for the pool, I was thinking raid10 with lvm >> on top, and a single lvm pv above that. >> > > Yeah, that would also be my recommendation. But if storage efficiency is > more relevant, RAID-5 with 4 disks brings you 750GB more usable storage. > > It looks like I'll want to try two different configurations. RAID5 and RAID10. Not for different storage requirements, but I want to see exactly what the performance drop is. I wish lvm striping supported data redundancy. But, then, I wish btrfs was ready... --=20 :wq