From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RzwXD-0008F8-5U for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:42:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74F1BE180A; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D440E1620 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcit16 with SMTP id it16so6471026bkc.40 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mikemol@gmail.com designates 10.204.9.205 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.204.9.205; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mikemol@gmail.com designates 10.204.9.205 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mikemol@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=mikemol@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.204.9.205]) by 10.204.9.205 with SMTP id m13mr14130059bkm.68.1329856839247 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:40:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=EGoFFiUX20w7roW2Un+n/aVqFSDlKLq0V5wAQHW0x+A=; b=NeaDILFn3MsSICLMOIpmXDxDvivyRxcQedYkR2jEUj2qvevjxBuVf88lDX50SoUM6U VA7ktW2Y6LHNU44GxTL4HaUpJqxDVI7BfLgKHOP0jLPzmv0agBkiq11QLGMLg2k63eGG 3l5EHMKd2me91RADpmcC8v8Hsw0apHgmAQd+c= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.9.205 with SMTP id m13mr11406702bkm.68.1329856839153; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.124.129 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:40:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20120221200726.1489233f@digimed.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:40:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Raid install via ubuntu From: Michael Mol To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: c2abd467-7a8a-4040-993e-3b22df5989f8 X-Archives-Hash: 8d0e085637925f6ad2817523fce560d7 On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:46:02 -0500, Michael Mol wrote: >>> >>>> > Has anyone installed gentoo on ubuntu raid install? >>>> > If so, your experiences? >>>> >>>> I haven't tried anything that way, but is sounds like using Ubuntu as >>>> a fancy bootstrap to replace the Gentoo live boot environment, and >>>> seems unnecessary. Have you tried the Gentoo live DVD? >>> >>> I did this several years ago, because I wanted a functional distro to >>> work with while compiling everything, a long task with the hardware of the >>> day. It's no different to using a live CD for the job, just make sure the >>> tools you need are installing in the host OS before you start. >> >> I prefer to do it this way, as I can load up the Gentoo Handbook in a >> browser and avoid the risk of some typos by copy/pasting some >> commands. And if I hit an error[1], I can copy/paste if I need to dig >> up someone else who's had a similar problem. >> >> [1] And, really, every new box is unique, and I always find >> *something* to file a bug report against... > > Is it the only running machine and you con only do the install sitting > at the machine? Occasionally that's the most convenient approach, sure. Especially when physical space is tight, or when the new box has much larger display[s] available to it. > > I do most installs by booting the Gentoo install CD, enabling shh and > then shelling in from another machine where I run the handbook and > copy/paste the commandsin my shell terminal. No need for Ubuntu to do > that unless the machine is somehow in isolation and doesn't have > networking. > > That said, using Ubuntu might be a very good way to do it especially > if you are going to build a RAID which isn't automatically recognizzed > at bott by the kernel. I.e. - needs an initrd. Think metadata > 0.9 > and things like RAID5 or 6. > > I once used Ubuntu to get a PowerPC machine booting Linux, then > studied how Ubuntu did and did my Gentoo install from scratch on a > different partition until it worked at which time I removed Ubuntu. Note I never said I used Ubuntu for this process. I was using the Gentoo live DVD. I don't see the need to use an Ubuntu disc over a Gentoo disc, in this case. -- :wq