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From: Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] convert wmv to mp4?
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 15:04:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+czFiCmRdnkh0-eNoBS5tK7ARW6ttCesX+WcSnWWkf4GMo3LQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D32BA734-8114-45CE-85E0-E2625FE5433A@stellar.eclipse.co.uk>

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Stroller <stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On 1 May 2012, at 18:51, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> …
>>> I am certainly able to play back .wmv files here without win32codecs installed. Admittedly, I'm using xbmc to do that, and haven't recently tested using VLC or mplayer, but I would avoid installing that package unless I was sure I needed it.
>>
>> …
>> WMV, mp4, WAV, etc. are all names given to container formats. WMV
>> might contain h264 internally, or it might contain one of the
>> "Microsoft Video" codecs, …
>
> Actually, WMV appears not to be a container format - but a family of codecs.
>
> Apparently the .wmv files we see distributed on the net are most always WMV codec video contained in a ASF container.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.wmv

Ah, right, my mistake.

>
> I don't believe I've ever encountered a .wmv file containing h264. One probably wouldn't actually notice, in normal use, if one did receive such a file, assuming it worked when one clicked on it.
>
> However I find it extremely unlikely to imagine anyone putting h264 in a .wmv file (or an ASF container). We all commonly put h264 in .mp4 or .mkv containers.

You've never been deep into AMVs, I take it. If a codec can be shoved
into a container, I've probably had a sample of it at one time or
another.

>
>> Sometimes that's because of patent issues, sometimes that's because
>> there aren't enough useful samples, and sometimes that's because
>> nobody cares about a codec nobody's seriously used since 1997.
>
> I'm pretty sure we're able to play back WMV7, WMV9 / AC-1 videos without these binary decoders. It's probably not very useful to talk about codecs "nobody's seriously used since 1997." I *am* pretty sure that upstream mplayer *do* generally say "don't bother with the win32codecs".

Actually, a lot of upstream hacks on stuff for reasons ranging from
completeness to plain and simple fun. Check out multimedia.cx, follow
the blogs.

> The goal here to to get Mark's video playing, and he's given no indication it's some old file he found on a 1998 system.

Sure. But when I give an explanation, I give background. Give a fire,
teach to make a fire...Gentoo tends to be far more about teaching to
make fires than simply providing them. Though sometimes it uses you
for kindling.

-- 
:wq



  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-01 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-01 15:52 [gentoo-user] convert wmv to mp4? Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 16:01 ` Michael Mol
2012-05-01 16:09   ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 16:37     ` Claudio Roberto França Pereira
2012-05-01 17:35       ` Stroller
2012-05-01 17:51         ` Michael Mol
2012-05-01 18:31           ` Stroller
2012-05-01 19:04             ` Michael Mol [this message]
2012-05-01 17:04 ` David W Noon
2012-05-01 17:45 ` Stroller
2012-05-01 18:03   ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 18:37     ` Stroller
2012-05-01 19:00     ` Dale
2012-05-01 17:56 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-05-01 18:19   ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 18:24     ` Michael Mol
2012-05-01 18:31     ` Michael Hampicke
2012-05-01 19:01       ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 18:43     ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 19:08       ` Michael Mol
2012-05-01 19:30         ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 19:56           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-05-01 20:46             ` Paul Hartman
2012-05-01 20:51               ` Michael Mol
2012-05-01 21:41                 ` Paul Hartman
2012-05-01 22:14                   ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 22:36                     ` Paul Hartman
2012-05-01 23:54                       ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-02  0:42                         ` Michael Mol
2012-05-02  0:51                           ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-02  1:02                             ` Michael Mol
2012-05-02 16:24                               ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-02  3:53                             ` Stroller
2012-05-02  4:31                               ` Dale
2012-05-02  8:59                             ` Helmut Jarausch
2012-05-02 13:24                             ` Eliezer Croitoru
2012-05-02 16:25                             ` Pandu Poluan
2012-05-04 12:11                     ` Mike Edenfield
2012-05-02  0:40                   ` Michael Mol

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