From: Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] convert wmv to mp4?
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 15:04:53 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+czFiCmRdnkh0-eNoBS5tK7ARW6ttCesX+WcSnWWkf4GMo3LQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D32BA734-8114-45CE-85E0-E2625FE5433A@stellar.eclipse.co.uk>
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Stroller <stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On 1 May 2012, at 18:51, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> …
>>> I am certainly able to play back .wmv files here without win32codecs installed. Admittedly, I'm using xbmc to do that, and haven't recently tested using VLC or mplayer, but I would avoid installing that package unless I was sure I needed it.
>>
>> …
>> WMV, mp4, WAV, etc. are all names given to container formats. WMV
>> might contain h264 internally, or it might contain one of the
>> "Microsoft Video" codecs, …
>
> Actually, WMV appears not to be a container format - but a family of codecs.
>
> Apparently the .wmv files we see distributed on the net are most always WMV codec video contained in a ASF container.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.wmv
Ah, right, my mistake.
>
> I don't believe I've ever encountered a .wmv file containing h264. One probably wouldn't actually notice, in normal use, if one did receive such a file, assuming it worked when one clicked on it.
>
> However I find it extremely unlikely to imagine anyone putting h264 in a .wmv file (or an ASF container). We all commonly put h264 in .mp4 or .mkv containers.
You've never been deep into AMVs, I take it. If a codec can be shoved
into a container, I've probably had a sample of it at one time or
another.
>
>> Sometimes that's because of patent issues, sometimes that's because
>> there aren't enough useful samples, and sometimes that's because
>> nobody cares about a codec nobody's seriously used since 1997.
>
> I'm pretty sure we're able to play back WMV7, WMV9 / AC-1 videos without these binary decoders. It's probably not very useful to talk about codecs "nobody's seriously used since 1997." I *am* pretty sure that upstream mplayer *do* generally say "don't bother with the win32codecs".
Actually, a lot of upstream hacks on stuff for reasons ranging from
completeness to plain and simple fun. Check out multimedia.cx, follow
the blogs.
> The goal here to to get Mark's video playing, and he's given no indication it's some old file he found on a 1998 system.
Sure. But when I give an explanation, I give background. Give a fire,
teach to make a fire...Gentoo tends to be far more about teaching to
make fires than simply providing them. Though sometimes it uses you
for kindling.
--
:wq
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-01 19:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-01 15:52 [gentoo-user] convert wmv to mp4? Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 16:01 ` Michael Mol
2012-05-01 16:09 ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 16:37 ` Claudio Roberto França Pereira
2012-05-01 17:35 ` Stroller
2012-05-01 17:51 ` Michael Mol
2012-05-01 18:31 ` Stroller
2012-05-01 19:04 ` Michael Mol [this message]
2012-05-01 17:04 ` David W Noon
2012-05-01 17:45 ` Stroller
2012-05-01 18:03 ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 18:37 ` Stroller
2012-05-01 19:00 ` Dale
2012-05-01 17:56 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-05-01 18:19 ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 18:24 ` Michael Mol
2012-05-01 18:31 ` Michael Hampicke
2012-05-01 19:01 ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 18:43 ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 19:08 ` Michael Mol
2012-05-01 19:30 ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 19:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-05-01 20:46 ` Paul Hartman
2012-05-01 20:51 ` Michael Mol
2012-05-01 21:41 ` Paul Hartman
2012-05-01 22:14 ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-01 22:36 ` Paul Hartman
2012-05-01 23:54 ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-02 0:42 ` Michael Mol
2012-05-02 0:51 ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-02 1:02 ` Michael Mol
2012-05-02 16:24 ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-02 3:53 ` Stroller
2012-05-02 4:31 ` Dale
2012-05-02 8:59 ` Helmut Jarausch
2012-05-02 13:24 ` Eliezer Croitoru
2012-05-02 16:25 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-05-04 12:11 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-05-02 0:40 ` Michael Mol
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