From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Rirx4-0005UN-N8 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:22:11 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FF6721C23D; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 18:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ey0-f181.google.com (mail-ey0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D790721C14D for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 18:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaai1 with SMTP id i1so635300eaa.40 for ; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 10:20:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6JxIyXP7l7VZmqtM4bMBHYr9Diz/t9ZFCJd+NfjIDsE=; b=mTwzFYkeOtQ80Buy8Xwupxb77kTpAidTisKSjmOPBw768bHjgnv4mnkGNyuS7agxtr iJKl6B/1SVjke/sBMcvITeS9pR9T2gaEfEfYxpqivFQxTEiS+pQyFWRdsYqfAjmCmYLo 4th/kQT9mKsa+JqdZJZX7BgvF4ba0cuc+9srQ= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.120.148 with SMTP id fy20mr1210182bkc.125.1325787616870; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 10:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.177.18 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:20:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120105200222.224ee38e@rohan.example.com> References: <20111115062115.GA3262@waltdnes.org> <20120103100445.GD1961@waltdnes.org> <20120103123209.GB2410@nicolas-desktop> <20120103131346.GC2410@nicolas-desktop> <20120103143120.GF2410@nicolas-desktop> <20120103221555.22c778a3@digimed.co.uk> <4F038C23.5030708@gmail.com> <4F04E1B4.3050901@gmail.com> <20120105020254.455da0df@rohan.example.com> <4F0551AC.2070608@coolmail.se> <20120105094312.02a82a80@rohan.example.com> <4F055C93.4070601@coolmail.se> <20120105140801.1737ce43@rohan.example.com> <4F05C6D5.8050806@coolmail.se> <20120105200222.224ee38e@rohan.example.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:20:16 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 From: Michael Mol To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 29d6cfc6-b045-4dd2-ab75-188792a1e78c X-Archives-Hash: 3aa06de236f7fb92fd1487c3838c39d5 On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:50:45 +0100 > pk wrote: > >> On 2012-01-05 13:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> > If /usr is local, what really is the point of having it separate >> > from /? Have you ever found a Linux system in any condition that >> > could not start just because the stuff in /usr was available? I >> > haven't. >> > >> > Even the split between bin and sbin is arbitrary. It's only there so >> > that users can take sbin out of PATH and not have the screen >> > cluttered with endless junk when they tab-tab. It makes much more >> > sense to me to just have one single bin and lib location and shove >> > everything into it. >> >> I'm not an admin of a large organization so what do I know... but, I >> still can appreciate the flexibility and "tidyness" it[2] gives you >> in a multi-user system. I also can see this from a security point of >> view ("keep the cool toys from the children")... I personally like it >> for my very local computer as well for the above reasons (flex./tidy). >> >> 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard >> >> What you are basically saying is that everything "we" have learned >> about computer systems should be abolished and we adapt the >> monolithic, "black box" philosophy of newish systems like Windows. >> That's how I interpret what you're saying (yes, I do know hardware >> has changed since the 60'ies but not that radically, IMO)... I tend >> to think of Unix as "Lego" where you have lots of little bits with >> clean(ish) interfaces with which you can build whatever you want.dual >> > > Good analogy. I also like building systems from individual Lego bricks. > I don't like having to build the bricks themselves first :-) > > Windows goes too far to the other extreme IMO. That OS seems to have > largely abandoned control and there's not much in the way of > structure. Too little control is just as bad as too much Apparently they're going the 'app store' route in Windows 8. -- :wq