From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Rhk9P-0007HJ-0i for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 15:50:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2AA121C20D; Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ey0-f181.google.com (mail-ey0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586B121C08A for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaai1 with SMTP id i1so10321289eaa.40 for ; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 07:47:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=7ml8xSpTjPPGOQJYia77xa85m8C0MyNnxmuWeBl2ICQ=; b=hzyVDJG04j2r/UGrqwZM+wtP8dEjwE8iph4xs1Q1Qou4S2EIqIhiBR9gTQtO1JI8in TRfz+UREmuzudV4JRpHDJqez51TdHlHchZIguGc0hsWJwd551ElSYhhgmLJWSXywR2mc MpDJ4afPlrp2SVZnVFBS6YD8QZAb7vn1HWalQ= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.133.207 with SMTP id g15mr10888228bkt.17.1325519257550; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 07:47:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.177.18 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jan 2012 07:47:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F01CDC8.5050003@libertytrek.org> References: <4F00D521.1030702@orlitzky.com> <4F00DA99.8050502@orlitzky.com> <4F01CDC8.5050003@libertytrek.org> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 10:47:37 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior From: Michael Mol To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 02fb444b-9e1f-4474-bad1-e0d0e5a39203 X-Archives-Hash: c492d42ab224af2ee5c6f37413bb7356 On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2012-01-01 5:13 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> >> On 01/01/2012 05:06 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Michael Orlitzky >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Using "emerge --update foo" adds "foo" to your world file. This is >>>> responsible for pretty much every package that incorrectly found its way >>>> into one of my world files. >>>> >>>> Is there any reason to desire the current behavior? I'd like to >>>> suggest that >>>> it be fixed, but want to be sure I'm not just being short-sighted. > > >>> Pretty sure that's what -1 is for. I'm just getting the hang of it >>> myself. > > >> Well, I know what I'm *supposed* to do. My complaint is basically that I >> sometimes forget to add -1 with -u, and that bad things happen as a >> result. >> >> But why should I have to add -1 along with it? Is there any reason you >> would ever want -u to add a package to your world file? If not, we can >> avoid headaches in the future by making it do the sane (not harmful) >> thing. > > > Uh-oh... > > I've *never* used -1 unless I'm trying to fix a broken package by > recompiling it... I've always just used > > emerge -vuDN world... > > Been doing it this way for 7+ years, and never had a problem, so my question > is: > > What 'harmful' thing has been happening on/to my system all these years? Probably nothing, because of your use of --deep and --newuse. That's pretty much the way I upgrade software on my system. -- :wq