From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R10M1-00057R-2E for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:26:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C41F821C2E9; Tue, 6 Sep 2011 18:26:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA67321C2D3 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2011 18:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so7686850bkb.40 for ; Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:23:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QPQHcaLdV28EO/1xq0DbsU9yRu7JWUApH5ER2h8Sb8o=; b=DIYeQIJGKPjPrwNIYGhKABhAKbbUk48pRQ3kvYxJk0eVuDr5Ef0B21W33s8DFp+bVg tjRZFGSUl2NMtefDBIp42vzwcDZ8H11s7u9E0xAYzaHNErUoCDPASCOFuLxASR6NrbzI +eQgfwYDGJ1h9VuFtpsiICBDAii4rq2Be+KC0= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.141.215 with SMTP id n23mr3073756bku.364.1315333393794; Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.134.153 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:23:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110906175554.GE9867@acm.acm> References: <87ehzuiu1y.fsf@newton.gmurray.org.uk> <4E65405E.8020809@wonkology.org> <4E664740.80406@gmail.com> <20110906164938.GC9867@acm.acm> <20110906175554.GE9867@acm.acm> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:23:13 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is up with the libreoffice ebuild? From: Michael Mol To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: b56837f651c62c75017a82dd553676a2 On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Michael. > On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 01:02:59PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> It could be that IPP is just becoming the preferred protocol, and other >> print queue managing protocols are going the way of Gopher. > > Preferred by whom? =C2=A0Firefox, for example, manages lprng just fine. = =C2=A0It's > really not a big deal supporting an extra spooler interface, particularly > a simple one. "IPP is just becoming" indicates a change. Where's change coming from? Demand to satisfy new users. Who are the new users? Probably the people running turnkey installs of Ubuntu. For me, IPP and CUPS have "just worked" beautifully*. Any SKU of Windows 7 higher than 'starter' will talk to a CUPS daemon just fine, and will automatically see a CUPS daemon running on the network if the daemon is using running mdns-sd. The one trouble I've had is getting those mdns-sd broadcasts forwarded across my subnets. Change happens. > >> Is there a simple IPP daemon which could wrap lprng? > > Adding a layer of complexity to a daemon to cope with added complexity in > a client program? =C2=A0I doubt it. =C2=A0It sounds like madness. Isn't that what inetd does? nc? Hell, isn't that what "does one thing, and one thing only" KISS philosophy behind unixy commands and piping philosophy has been about all along? Insert a shim or adapter between two things which are related, but not quite compatible? * And, yes, I realize that, for some, it doesn't. That's what mailing lists like this are helpful for...troubleshooting. --=20 :wq