From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RJU8R-0006H0-Jg for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:52:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7996721C06A; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209AB21C029 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzv3 with SMTP id zv3so2261824bkb.40 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:51:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x2T1JZORF2+yL4bCltZknVyZ9XldAfyo6BgQnWHQkrU=; b=OYJ7Qf72SvCVBu40LMmWuVgKGYH9yIHbNATV1jfIkH6UwkLaIWC7rHbxdNw6pKdjve iQwjozIIlxtSct+/9OMlAXuhW7uvRwuggl8Rko4eW8HCTNJ/KEVbT9AlYF8WbMntmBz5 ny5i2G6Sh+xsH5PRZKOe9kKuKjAosESRjLCgI= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.152.27 with SMTP id e27mr208119bkw.62.1319737907149; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.37.16 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:51:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4EA9952A.4030909@gmail.com> References: <4EA9130A.6070807@gmail.com> <2251997.4gxL5gE8u7@localhost> <4EA9952A.4030909@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:51:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed. From: Michael Mol To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: bfa8125a7f9912f6c1d59e1584361a11 On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Dale wrote: > > > Looks like some good info. =C2=A0I just need a GOOD sale and some extra m= oney to > spend. =C2=A0Maybe in a couple weeks or so. =C2=A0Hopefully. ;-) > > As for heat in my case, I have a Cooler Master HAF-932 case. =C2=A0It has= those > huge 230mm fans. =C2=A0Heat is not a problem. > > I just wonder how much data they will be able to pack into a 3.5" drive t= ho. > =C2=A0Hmmmmm. =C2=A0Surely they will run out of room at some point. =C2= =A0I mean, the heads > have got to have a little room to work with. Just don't buy a SAMSUNG drive. I know, I know, everyone has their pet "Don't Buy Hard Drives Made By $x" experience. Here's mine. I bought a 1TB SAMSUNG drive for cheap from Newegg at a Black Friday sale a couple years ago. It failed on me. Around the same time, I identified some flaws in the firmware which I considered severe[2]. I RMA'd the drive, including a full report on the failure and the bugs I'd found in the firmware. I received the new drive in the mail. Same exact model. Same exact firmware revision.[1] It failed on me within three months. I attempted another RMA, the drive's serial number was rejected by their system, and I never heard back. So, I recommend not buying SAMSUNG drives for a combination of: 1) Historical evidence of poor firmware design. (reference smartctl's man page; SAMSUNG is the only manufacturer I know of to get two user-selectable workarounds in smartctl.) 2) I received a failed drive, which was RMA'd, the subsequent drive failed shortly thereafter, and couldn't be RMA'd using normal channels. 3) No acknowledgement (or even denial) of the firmware issue. [1] Ok, sure, there's no way they'd be able to whip out a new firmware revision in time for an RMA. That wouldn't make sense. But they might have sent me a drive with a different firmware revision. Or a different model. As it stood, they sent me back a device I'd already identified as systemically defective. [2] It claimed to support logging, but any failed test didn't get appended to the log, but erased and replaced it. I can probably dig up nearly all the details, but not quickly, since I'm at work. However, since you're on the cusp of making a purchase, I thought I'd give you fair warning... --=20 :wq