From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RC1Fk-00017S-9G for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 03:37:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1451321C253; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 03:37:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D85621C124 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 03:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzt12 with SMTP id zt12so5416689bkb.40 for ; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 20:36:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gHrnfF8QwwPQS0MzHJ6fslgXJ4R8T/EoHxawkVdwV6Q=; b=sddIwFzVvBD2bbrplheqb2nH5D9WDtvdh4HLQ5Ulcx1zM37w1fGgAEC9k5PfEe7fwm DWqBvMI1BSk0tabTfuymlYV12etgFnbpydZ9BThdOVYl5XNmA4h/AAsw5ldByKgtUCE/ qpEzS49sfzGckqnXlRZO4SsXJ58UHFR71ni+c= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.132.87 with SMTP id a23mr1013047bkt.285.1317958593329; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 20:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.177.199 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 20:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.177.199 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 20:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 23:36:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement From: Michael Mol To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d02a4c8b94404aead2501 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: c61889231d1b182e671ab22ae2965612 --0015175d02a4c8b94404aead2501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Oct 6, 2011 11:21 PM, "Dale" wrote: > > Mick wrote: >> >> On Thursday 06 Oct 2011 20:42:43 Dale wrote: >>> >>> Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>>> >>>> On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote: >>>>> >>>>> most of the "oh it's so weird"-whining often comes from just not being >>>>> used to it. flip your door lock upside down - you'll hate it with >>>>> passion for a week and then you won't even notice. flip it again and >>>>> the process will repeat. >>>> >>>> But if someone else snuck into your house and flipped your locks every >>>> week? >>>> >>>> This one change won't be catastrophic, but I will probably spend a good >>>> eight hours researching, testing, implementing, and documenting it. In >>>> the end, *if everything goes according to plan*, stuff will work exactly >>>> how it does now. >>>> >>>> If Grub were the only package to do this -- fine, whatever. But next >>>> week it will be something else. I don't know what my point is, but it >>>> feels good to bitch about it. >>> >>> This is how I feel about the initramfs thingy and /usr and /var. What >>> is next? I am pretty sure it will be something tho. >> >> I share your pain. :-( >> >> I'm not sure if this a sign of me getting (even) older, or Linux maturing and >> in doing so it caters less and less for Gentoo geeky users and more and more >> for mainstream ignoramuses. :p >> > > I was thinking more like windoze really. If windoze starts having mount points like Linux, things could start changing. ^_^ Think about it, windoze currently has to have its stuff on the C drive and Linux can be spread out over many drives and you can mount things wherever you want. Linux is going the way of windoze then windoze would be going the way of Linux. Weird huh? You've been able to do this since at least WinXP. I don't know if that functionality extends through Win2k and earlier. On one hand, you can configure the locations of things like %PROGRAMFILES% and %SYSTEMROOT%. On the other hand, you can mount a volume wherever you like. I used this to use the same .libpurple directory on a machine dual-booted between WinXP 32-bit and WinVista 64-bit. A data volume was mounted at D:\Data, and I had NTFS junctions pointing my .libpurple on both boots at a directory on that volume. --0015175d02a4c8b94404aead2501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Oct 6, 2011 11:21 PM, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mick wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday 06 Oct 2011 20:42:43 Dale wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> most of the "oh it's so weird"-whining o= ften comes from just not being
>>>>> used to it. flip your door lock upside down - you'= ll hate it with
>>>>> passion for a week and then you won't even notice.= flip it again and
>>>>> the process will repeat.
>>>>
>>>> But if someone else snuck into your house and flipped your= locks every
>>>> week?
>>>>
>>>> This one change won't be catastrophic, but I will prob= ably spend a good
>>>> eight hours researching, testing, implementing, and docume= nting it. In
>>>> the end, *if everything goes according to plan*, stuff wil= l work exactly
>>>> how it does now.
>>>>
>>>> If Grub were the only package to do this -- fine, whatever= . But next
>>>> week it will be something else. I don't know what my p= oint is, but it
>>>> feels good to bitch about it.
>>>
>>> This is how I feel about the initramfs thingy and /usr and /va= r. =C2=A0What
>>> is next? =C2=A0I am pretty sure it will be something tho.
>>
>> I share your pain. =C2=A0:-(
>>
>> I'm not sure if this a sign of me getting (even) older, or Lin= ux maturing and
>> in doing so it caters less and less for Gentoo geeky users and mor= e and more
>> for mainstream ignoramuses. =C2=A0:p
>>
>
> I was thinking more like windoze really. =C2=A0If windoze starts havin= g mount points like Linux, things could start changing. =C2=A0^_^ =C2=A0 Th= ink about it, windoze currently has to have its stuff on the C drive and Li= nux can be spread out over many drives and you can mount things wherever yo= u want. =C2=A0Linux is going the way of windoze then windoze would be going= the way of Linux. =C2=A0Weird huh?

You've been able to do this since at least WinXP. I don't know i= f that functionality extends through Win2k and earlier.

On one hand, you can configure the locations of things like %PROGRAMFILE= S% and %SYSTEMROOT%. On the other hand, you can mount a volume wherever you= like.

I used this to use the same .libpurple directory on a machine dual-boote= d between WinXP 32-bit and WinVista 64-bit. A data volume was mounted at D:= \Data, and I had NTFS junctions pointing my .libpurple on both boots at a d= irectory on that volume.

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