From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701A71381F3 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 04:04:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C309121C00B; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 04:04:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D04021C05A for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 04:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f53.google.com with SMTP id j5so1444247bkw.40 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:02:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WSQfDU789YqFg36QGhNDf5HhSenO+Tr2yIGJDJN9pyk=; b=v6iJq+WD/Az3QwRVoal0wMOmNAmBMTU1cJFPhuO6rWA40bDcWDA+Qr26/JrvLIQF7b JsekH8htOL29PyrIgzwHSEvLiXFMMR7kPpANOxwti+zqPDiqdIjMFTWAx2x1eN0vDgD9 y7JtBTxELTiM/MfGlDTcBoRcOmqa1r8T0m21sCN+S1vYQ8dPk5rTNa3XOg9u2Fwd8pHa os8DZCc2VcT6vq/qQN1Q+V+ZzD1kDb8B7NTMfMNxMlsTRQCHWIIYEjEI7Yap7CLFngPB 4svsbKwz7sVgNMJhp3hMofPBDU2hRxB9Z/Hmi2EnFbaU8djotnMvF/KDuuiVlJdykshh c//Q== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.151.9 with SMTP id a9mr2709720bkw.2.1353124978139; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:02:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.26.137 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:02:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50A70A5B.5030903@gmail.com> References: <50A1B335.2080907@gentoo.org> <50A1BC8A.2060607@gmail.com> <20121116224734.GA13844@waltdnes.org> <20121117033651.GA14197@waltdnes.org> <50A70A5B.5030903@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:02:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization From: Michael Mol To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: a3370787-728d-4da8-9b7b-c49fd801b8fd X-Archives-Hash: 9256be7fc1bd6e914e8bf09e9b7366c4 On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Dale wrote: > Walter Dnes wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 07:24:54PM -0500, Michael Mol wrote >>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: >>>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:20:42PM -0600, Dale wrote >>>>> Well, it appears we have someone willing to fork udev. Yeppie !! >>>>> Me, I'm looking forward to seeing how this works and giving it a test >>>>> run when it gets ready. Since it is a fork, shouldn't be to long, >>>>> I hope. >>>> BTW, this has hit Slashdot... >>>> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/11/16/2052203/gentoo-developers-fork-udev >>> Be sure to read Richard Yao's response: >>> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3256499&cid=42006113 >> I understand that he's still getting the effort organized. I am not a >> C programmer, but if the effort needs any beta testers, I'm willing to >> volunteer. BTW, it looks like Lennart Poettering is more unpopular than >> Steve Ballmer on Slashdot. >> > > Thing I like about the fork, if people get fed up with udev, udev falls > flat on its face or something else causes udev to fail, we have a udev > already ready. That statement may not be true for another couple months > or so but at least there is a Gentoo plan B. > > Also, I can get rid of dracut too. ;-) > > Walter, I wonder how much your work helped this along? If you had not > stepped up and did what you have done, then this fork may have never > happened. You could have at least let others know there are people > looking for something else. If so, thanks for that. :-D I think Walter's work (and his dogged perseverance despite the negative reactions I'd seen) played a pivotal role in having this play out the way it did. If he hadn't, I'm sure the systemd+udev thing would have gotten worked out anyway, I'm not sure the solution would have come from within Gentoo, and would not have come in the form of a fork, had Walter's work not been so obvious a focal point. Thanks, Walter. *tips hat* -- :wq