From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RYgLx-00065q-Ip for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:57:45 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 225E321C0E5; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 15:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9527721C045 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 15:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkat8 with SMTP id t8so2041578bka.40 for ; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 07:56:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8L6cRXB4alPodOPkxPFh6T0ganorb+ah1OaF/9dgERc=; b=kiMWJ1qOdCuqyMfAD0Jp5gdFBCZSp57oDfa8YwOIVF9olb6YUc6H5Ui4BLblk3VDvg vD+U9YLvYvHBGpYJw4UyV63rvYM1r8xnytRM16sxda4jetuqR4VJvkLL24oGX/ffD05i K4wpvK/+W/Wx3Hs1NgY9JHe+iq0YsWjtd77zc= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.139.76 with SMTP id iv12mr1786781bkc.100.1323359781589; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 07:56:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.54.65 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 07:56:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20111205201409.GA937@gaurahari.merseine.nu> <201112052332.24643.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20111206111531.5d5843bd@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <20111206220439.GA15412@badass.gateway.2wire.net> <20111208162916.2b486c4d@rohan.example.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 10:56:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse From: Michael Mol To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 668ac249-50a8-4880-8aaf-63ad3f71175f X-Archives-Hash: ddc437154cd0039cf3a8d7044cb8da7f On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:36 AM, LinuxIsOne wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:35 AM, LinuxIsOne wrote: > >>> That's debatable; it generally means that the amount of time that >>> passes before they realise that Linux is not Windows is increased. It >>> definitely gets them booted into a desktop environment quicker, but it >>> doesn't really save on the learning curve - something will go awry >>> sooner or later, and the fact that they've had the command-line hidden >>> from them until that first fateful trip to the forums won't feel like >>> such a benefit then. > >> Ok, I agree with you but I have just installed since I had to Linux >> experience but everything is working like a charm. I don't know if any >> problem would come. > > I mean i have no Linux experience and everything is working like a > charm in Ubuntu and yes you are correct to say that command line is > hidden which is the real gem in linux. I agree with you in this > regard. But I guess (not sure) if Ubuntu would give me the Linux > learning environment? As long as we're talking about *you*, and not about someone you're setting things up for, here's what I'd suggest: 1) Keep your existing Ubuntu setup operational, at least for a while. Gentoo isn't something you should dive into unless you have a fallback, at least until you learn enough to be able to fix the things you'll encounter. 2) Set up Gentoo as a second machine; it really is a great way to learn how a lot of the moving parts in Linux work. Once you've got Gentoo doing everything you want it to do, and you've burned yourself a couple times, you'll be in a good position to make a decision for yourself. I've actually bounced back and forth between Ubuntu and Gentoo twice in the last three or four years, but I think I'm finally ready to go steady with Gentoo. :) Ubuntu is great for "it just works." Ubuntu isn't so great for "it just keeps working." Neither is Gentoo, for that matter, but, at least with Gentoo, you'll know how to fix it. -- :wq