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From: Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is my system (really) using nptl
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 15:30:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+czFiB5b95Yszv4kjb_B56cq16r6F__z3c8OjK0MDWBHxh+Ug@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <507B1053.4090606@binarywings.net>

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Florian Philipp <lists@binarywings.net> wrote:
> Am 14.10.2012 17:07, schrieb Michael Mol:
>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Florian Philipp <lists@binarywings.net> wrote:
>>> Am 14.10.2012 01:20, schrieb Michael Mol:
>>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>> (Well, I'm not certain that POSIX thinks of threads as parents to each other.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hence the reason I put "parent" in quotes, and I specified "actually,
>>>>> the thread that created it".
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are *numerous* IPC mechanisms available on Linux. For starters,
>>>>>> there are sockets (domain, IPv4, IPv6, et al), named pipes, signals,
>>>>>> mmap()'d files, messaging, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, none of them "easy and quickly" to use, or at least not if you
>>>>> compare it with shared memory.
>>>>
>>>> I assume you mean 'shared memory' in the 'many threads to an address
>>>> space', not the /dev/shm sense.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If we really want to be nit-picking, we have to assume 'shared memory'
>>> as in malloc'ed [1] or stack memory. Anonymous mmap'ed memory mappings
>>> are preserved across forks and changes in them can be shared since
>>> kernel 2.4.
>>
>> Absolutely.
>>
>>> [1] Yes, I know that malloc uses mmap but its mappings are MAP_PRIVATE.
>>
>> For the GNU libc, yeah. I noticed that in strace, and was amused.
>>
>
> Huh? Are there other libcs that do it differently? I can't imagine any
> alternative (except of the sbrk function from the bad old days).

These days, and outside of Windows? I'm not familiar with any.

-- 
:wq


  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-14 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-12 13:24 [gentoo-user] Is my system (really) using nptl Timur Aydin
2012-10-12 17:46 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-10-12 23:55 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-10-13  0:09   ` Timur Aydin
2012-10-13  1:11     ` Mark Knecht
2012-10-13 11:15       ` Timur Aydin
2012-10-13 12:09         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-10-13 16:15           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-10-13 17:10             ` Mark Knecht
2012-10-13 18:16               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-10-13 18:40                 ` Mark Knecht
2012-10-13 18:57                   ` Matthew Finkel
2012-10-13 19:00                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-10-13 19:50                     ` Michael Mol
2012-10-13 20:18                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-10-13 23:20                         ` Michael Mol
2012-10-14  9:31                           ` Florian Philipp
2012-10-14 15:07                             ` Michael Mol
2012-10-14 19:19                               ` Florian Philipp
2012-10-14 19:30                                 ` Michael Mol [this message]
2012-10-14 19:35                                 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2012-10-14 20:05                                 ` [gentoo-user] " mike
2012-10-14 22:32                           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-10-13 20:13             ` Timur Aydin
2012-10-13 20:28               ` lists
2012-10-13 12:51         ` Michael Mol

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