From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ROxWJ-0003j3-QS for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:16:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8225E21C0E1; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D0821C08C for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkaq10 with SMTP id q10so4576982bka.40 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:14:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sHdq39evOAvtY52sJ81EMDBt1JHu4NeEfv7F3GaLYOY=; b=FO3zHmDQX4yGAveBpgnHe4DN2xYYRbBd8adQWCklpsVNKzj/sHrft6jNAqZDci13zG 1BcKARn2mTtc+E2kij50mY7OWdq7BRUyIrMLPH0SmyQICPTI5gc5TUv39sKNzlL6A+5Q k1rnS1HrhFBFrkORoxreZ/vrW5IC2JaMUxHaM= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.139.73 with SMTP id iv9mr4321483bkc.30.1321042497400; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:14:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.177.76 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:14:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201111111921.04929.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> References: <4EBC1707.5030103@gmail.com> <4EBC1FFD.3040403@gmail.com> <626edce95a8b1dd0834cae8599ab9825.squirrel@www.antarean.org> <201111111921.04929.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:14:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro From: Michael Mol To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: d4050161-d26d-4c02-9a43-c3e8dec14a73 X-Archives-Hash: e7cb7beb2d220bd2099fd3ec1a93e8dd On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Mick wrote: > On Friday 11 Nov 2011 07:37:56 J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On Thu, November 10, 2011 8:03 pm, Dale wrote: >> >> >> >> > Any tips or tricks on Kubuntu anyone? =C2=A0Sort of a basic 'this is h= ow you >> > update/install something for idiots' type thing. =C2=A0lol >> >> I think Sabayon would be a better option, but if you really want to go >> with *buntu/debian: >> >> - Install >> # sudo apt-get install >> >> - Update repository: >> # sudo apt-get update >> >> - Upgrade system: >> # sudo apt-get upgrade >> >> For "major" upgrades, you need to change to a different repository or >> something like that. >> I installed Gentoo on my netbook as I got really annoyed with the dodgy >> way ubuntu deals with this. > > Not to forget: > > sudo apt-get autoclean > > and yes, you'll need to get to grips with the various repos to install > packages outside the vanilla version of any distro. > > I've installed Kubuntu on a laptop and a load of extra packages for web > development. =C2=A0Have not heard any complaints for at least a year now.= =C2=A0;-) > > A point to note: =C2=A0Last time I used OpenSuse (must be 4 years ago or = more) it > did not seem to be as flexible as ?Ubuntu. =C2=A0There were all sort of d= ependency > problems if you veered off the beaten track. =C2=A0Also back then there w= as no way > to upgrade to the later version. =C2=A0It was a matter of reinstalling an= d > reconfiguring. =C2=A0Things may have moved on since. Never used OpenSuse, but I've spent about ten years bouncing between Ubuntu and Debian. (I started using Ubuntu around either 5.04 or 6.06. Not sure.) While Ubuntu is usually among the first of the binary distros to support new things, it's been suffering more and more (and more!) decay when you wander off the beaten path. Over the last couple years, it's tended toward beating its own path, so knowledge and skills are becoming less portable if you're bouncing between Ubuntu and other distros, or even between Ubuntu and Debian. It's nice if you want something up and running fast, it's friendly to newbies, and it's friendly to some kinds of administrators, but it's *not* friendly to power users. --=20 :wq