From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SsQzX-00014T-98 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 04:08:31 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6942EE0230; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 04:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48546E05DB for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 04:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4so3765860bkw.40 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:06:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4sxbGic8jc+/Npjng+fxcn/tEEdcGdKxGa5NYFmpyoc=; b=VCr+1ff9JxyuKLUTtRhBrDAUS3zCU7AjOgiczRsNPt6u7yld1PKD+A0v5Q8WtMpInX tJq2Mpw6bGZmlzjzefx/ivEHlZ78ks0X6Av0/gLH90yy1VsHSfoUo9EC3hfROp+hTHBx Cr2v+xXDZK9dyy4HNgHoDwyRVOTXJR7EieOhiscGeADbtEMxwbXB3WzwNT20Y6J23v7H GUHq8PwN7EuU9KXTwRIOrhzjZH9mqU+EN6DGo3qWZf5la1uqUZKBxCA73jOYPzFTxNcq 6fJucML8GwRzLuKKsK1HAxFVfrTWJXsQUKYT0cbUF3djk7A62kTDUxkQBypg5Md6NZhL zerA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.157.156 with SMTP id b28mr4244335bkx.27.1342843602111; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.10.12 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:06:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120720072442.GD2871@ca.inter.net> <20120720144011.17d96b2fc9d0d0786e0d2e8b@ukr.net> <500949AF.7080704@gmail.com> <50094C7A.2080203@binarywings.net> <5009990B.80106@gmail.com> <20120721012719.GA2879@ca.inter.net> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 00:06:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : (1) which CPU ? From: Michael Mol To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 88925419-e93c-4417-8c2d-c1d2fd56ea18 X-Archives-Hash: 1244ad3d4cecbfcd4d3e01b5e7585bc6 On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Alecks Gates wrote: > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Philip Webb wrote: >> 120720 Dale wrote to me as OP: >>> If you need help with this, i'd be glad to help you pick parts >>> for your build. The biggest thing is to make sure things work together. >> >> Thanks for the offer & the other advice from everyone so far. >> I built machines successfully in 2000 2003 2007 >> & am still using the last 2 , tho' the 2007 mobo failed (ASUS) >> & its replacement is showing minor bugs (glad I got in-store warranty). >> Therefore, I'm not looking for basic advice how to put a box together. >> >> I'm also willing to pay for a fast upto-date CPU, >> but not of course whatever came out just last week, >> which will soon drop in price & will still need some bugs sorting out. >> I don't have to choose between a good CPU & a good SSD >> & expect to get a competitive price from Canada Computers, as before. >> >> Any further thoughts re Intel vs AMD wb very welcome. >> >> -- >> ========================,,============================================ >> SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb >> ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto >> TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca >> >> > > You'd definitely get more bang for your buck out of AMD, especially > with Gentoo. It might even be worth waiting for AMD's piledriver-core > CPUs depending on how much of an improvement they actually give, > though I'm not sure when those are supposed to be out. And paying for > a top-of-the-line AMD CPU is still much cheaper than Intel. > > This is a very broad generalization of course, but a lot of it comes > down to multi-threaded (lean towards AMD) vs single-threaded (lean > towards Intel). Honestly I don't think you'd notice the difference > anyway on a general desktop. I'd pick AMD, and very likely one of > their APUs if you don't need intense graphics, as they seem to be able > to handle most things well and even some light gaming. I love AMD for the historical ladder upgrades; all of my AMD systems are comprised of components (RAM, CPU, and other pieces) which mostly came from previous systems or newer systems' replaced components. That's nice, and wonderfully cheap. That said, right now Intel gives the best performance per watt...and perhaps the best performance per dollar. I'm a few months out of date on my research, though. Wander around on cpubenchmark.net (Thanks, Florian, I'd lost my bookmark to that site) and find the processor that fits your price and performance level. Both Intel and AMD make excellent processors, so you'll have to do your own research for a good decision. -- :wq