From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1DA138010 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:23:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74591E0660; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35D221C025 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4so2308726bkw.40 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:18:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=57nnWaxlArktSRoxbhStbhEivOAArKjmaH9xWmAlH/w=; b=tz3jGXRud04RCtXa5ZwCzTH9rUTWXbcd2x9JH027Mxc+yh707OQfmuJFPjM6X4AXzz d2DGXYUzBh0zBwpYwxIBURcTp1v4HzgpmC56rYStnSIJx25b/Tijd25ahVtLI5suT0ap +BJVFd5LoK4OMAxhb9vhRlf6pM2GLwLAITIm+qRaRb5G8Chpo8Jtg8MJdq2QZ/oYspZ7 ldOasOt0hQfgeAjKupXXC3I+3vg5JwzeD7rVNVcfN65BSd0u8ft8A+rszavHz1Yivlpa GpoRZA81rBmAtsw9Dea/c+Fc0q81VV+4OaBqeIgqr0x3RS8msxNqtxg9YsIZGRnexKDB oTjQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.133.193 with SMTP id g1mr4342048bkt.2.1345472296001; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.25.8 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:18:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50324145.krY+wuYN/lZ5hqll%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <20120820102139.GB2928@ca.inter.net> <201208201219.50251.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <503235ea.H95evf/UaJngUP+t%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <50324145.krY+wuYN/lZ5hqll%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:18:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : DVD drive From: Michael Mol To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 7456a649-4150-4d96-b930-f17b342d210c X-Archives-Hash: 6e1fff0e3983eb5d5af9af3ba2e5b253 On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Michael Mol wrote: > >> I alluded to this in my description of DVD-R. Thank you for correcting >> my description of implementation details, though. (Obviously, you >> don't need a special burner, but you do need to buy specially-licensed >> media.) > > Well, if you manage to get unwritten DVD- media, you need a drive with special > firmware and you even can pretend a different manufacturer ;-) > > It is however hard to get this special firmware... > > >> >> When in doubt, go with DVD+R. >> > >> > This is a wrong advise: When In doubt go DVD- as this is the official format. >> >> I don't understand this position at all for this context. Unless >> you're doing work in particular fields for the recording industry, why >> touch DVD-R at all? Doing so because "it's the official format" >> doesn't really mean anything; the industry and market has been stable >> for years, and upstream isn't going to switch out everything out from >> under people using the format. (At least, not in a way that doesn't >> screw over DVD-R users as well.) > > You seem to be anti-DVD- because you uncorrectly believe that it is related to > the film industry. You are wrong. Pioneer asked the fil industry to make a > useful proposal before Summer 2001 and as this proposal was not made, Pioneer > started to sell the A03 for 1000 US $ - together with the prerecorded media > format. No, I'm not anti-DVD-, or even anti-film-industry. I recommend DVD+ over DVD- for the uninitiated, for compatibility and flexibility reasons. > >> I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong in that perhaps DVD-R might be >> the more appropriate format, but you should give some better arguments >> than "it's the official format". > > I did give these arguments: There are variouy problems media compatibility of > you use DVD+ with different drives. Your description runs counter to my experience. But that's not terribly surprising; there will of course be players which won't handle DVD+ media, but I've found them to be few and far between. > > NOTE: DVD+ does not have a round robin check!!!!!! I don't know what that is, and searching isn't turning up anything but pages about a movie called 'round robin'. -- :wq