From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RDeb4-0004iW-UH for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:50:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E5AC21C191; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7AE21C04A for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzt12 with SMTP id zt12so13023767bkb.40 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:49:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x6f0E/J6ckoHJoZFkUBZ4vBhSL6c3u21ahR1Hy5ObWg=; b=DJiJCUdl2CtX6Thr/6FpMz9bvpMjMKwxZ34aMBQXN2HXfm3DkfxM1+j63Po+UnbkT4 t709o7cvhhfRnuyckuVJ27VD8DNFoYse2uKAe+9ehfIH9xqQRQ370RObBKRq21lbrt8e ECT1QRsZqtETCuRy+ESgRfVUhEZDK0+TOcJqE= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.130.68 with SMTP id r4mr9985241bks.62.1318348162885; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.177.199 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:49:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111011173825.62f19f2a@toxic.dbnet> References: <20111011130327.3bcf7ecd@toxic.dbnet> <20111011173825.62f19f2a@toxic.dbnet> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:49:22 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [gentoo-user] =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFtnZW50b28tdXNlcl0gUmU6IFtnZW50b28tdXNlcl0g5Zue5aSN77yaIFtnZW50bw==?= =?UTF-8?B?by11c2VyXSBBbnlvbmUgY2FuIGFmZm9yZCBpbmZvcm1hdGlvbiBhYm91dCBidWlsZCBrZXJuZWw/?= From: Michael Mol To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 87015f4752deaee55c101d231e236db0 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jonas de Buhr wro= te: > Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:54:37 -0400 > schrieb Michael Mol : > >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Jonas de Buhr >> wrote: >> > hey guys, >> > >> > please don't get me wrong on this one, i mean no offense. >> > can anyone explain to me what this is? are these lavender threads >> > some kind of trolling i don't get? >> > >> > it (apparently on purpose, since hints in that direction are >> > ignored) combines loads of annoying qualities: >> > >> > - nondescriptive titles >> > - doing everything to rip apart threads: no In-Reply-To and even >> > =C2=A0subject changes >> > - no line-breaks >> > - difficult to read incorrect punctuation (plenk) >> > - problem details are kept nebulous and info requests are ignored >> > - none of the proposed solutions are ever tried or commented >> >> To me, the "Lavender's" messages read like someone is going through an >> automated translation tool to get between English and their native >> language. (In this case, Chinese) >> >> "Anyone can afford ... ?" sounds like bad forced translation between >> semantic idioms. >> >> "Anyone can afford information about build kernel" >> "Can anyone afford information about build kernel" >> "Can anyone spend time helping about build kernel" >> "Can anyone spend time helping me build my kernel" >> >> That explains the punctuation (poor translation tool(!)) and nebulous >> requests. > >> His responses indicated he was reading what had been sent in >> reply. >> His first reply and his second reply were closely related, and >> when commands were offered that allowed him to find the exact >> information he needed, he gave his third reply indicating he had what >> he needed. >> >> I'm using GMail as my email client, and threading and subject lines >> showed intact for me until your "this is spam" message following the >> one I'm replying to. > > interesting, so gmail is aware of the chinese equivalent of "Re" (=E5=9B= =9E=E5=A4=8D) > but doesn't use the In-Reply-To: header correctly? The two replies I saw from him have these lines in their original headers: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel= ? Subject: [gentoo-user] =3D?gbk?B?u9i4tKO6IFtnZW50b28tdXNlcl0gQW55b25lIGNh?= =3D =3D?gbk?B?biBhZmZvcmQgaW5mb3JtYXRpb24gYWJvdXQgYnVp?=3D =3D?gbk?B?bGQga2VybmVsPw=3D=3D?=3D So the second one definitely came through worse than the first, but (for whatever reason), GMail didn't signal a topic change. (Usually, it's pretty good about that) Maybe GMail was clever enough to pick up on something like X-Reply-Hash and tie it to a thread. Dunno. --=20 :wq