From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RIjiW-0004VF-Tw for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:19:09 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 28A8121C0B8; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C348C21C04A for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzv3 with SMTP id zv3so406075bkb.40 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:17:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6RteklZPAbrNemjshvh68LdmzdOunUqGjjZ0nDTOz6Y=; b=lJ/VL4kufyBAQChlMWnIK88SZFTJzSNHeykuFQb4mDB2EOr6er0wIiXk9ChfN5jLey 9fwmjZJy6Uz5+LQgJQLJy+3HeAUiu+gs3p1wNawlwCvhdcN2DqV2HQ1D3NuKAEnizZGw EG3HizGQft+8nJWjurOTtzRmv35FxlHQJx+Ds= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.15.211 with SMTP id l19mr13698491bka.75.1319559477754; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.37.16 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:17:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1319460789.4336.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <60153291.134fc.13335ed4fc6.Coremail.lavender_matrix@163.com> <1191cc81.13d0d.1333620b171.Coremail.lavender_matrix@163.com> <74b5913c.13385.1333682dc72.Coremail.lavender_matrix@163.com> <2bfc803.de87.1333bb31157.Coremail.lavender_matrix@163.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:17:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re:Re: Problem with sound card From: Michael Mol To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 356f2a30899c2bdbfb4a4b764177060d On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Paul Hartman > wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Mark Knecht wro= te: >>> 2011/10/25 Lavender : >>>>>You=C2=A0have=C2=A0to=C2=A0have=C2=A0the=C2=A0the=C2=A0correct=C2=A0dr= ivers=C2=A0and=C2=A0alsa-utils=C2=A0emerge. >>>>>Good=C2=A0luck >>>> Yeah, I rebuilt my kernel according to documentation which relative >>>> to ALSA . FInally I have configured all of them perfectly , ha, >>>> it's really not easy :-) >>> >>> You should have seen how 'really not easy' ALSA was 10 years ago! ;-) >> >> Or that commercial linux sound driver package... I don't even remember >> what it was called anymore. > > OSS I think - something like Open Sound System or some such other > crazy thing, being it was neither Open nor most of the time for me > produced Sound on my System. ;-) > > I think there is still support for it in the kernel. Go figure... It's only been deprecated for over a decade...I can only barely remember a time before ALSA was pulled into the mainline kernel. The original OSS support is still in there. There's also an OSS emulation layer for ALSA. The name 'Open Sound System' comes from an era where 'open' normally meant, "you can buy a license from us to use our system in your products" and 'closed' meant "no, you can't include a subset of our product in your product. Your customers can be our customers, instead." The movements pushed along by ESR and RMS redefined what 'open' and 'proprietary' were taken to mean. See also 'OpenGL', which is still trademarked, and the owners of the trademark allow "compatible" implementations to exist. --=20 :wq