From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-143591-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7461381F3 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91C1321C119; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2436A21C09F for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id za17so3867822obc.17 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:28:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LDqSJpuMFcMv3FulJCGSuDqAPuN8zvM5ka4isQawGbE=; b=gHWsao2aE/4/hb5+G3OpaT6pLjrBmGyzU2KiIujP5fpSuH7dctXTxJEgXfQOm1Sgh7 GmJ+E6TsT4dYxwCU6VBQCHyuMeAfRvJL/XfTyiCLlHpZBLkdAyd+Mgu3F1aAsYnhMUAQ AmW7XZwcSQuoQBJ1isTtxAverwpXP/1hDze1R0WkVYhctFgF9czqnIuk/X5RWO30+8G+ zdFCJfYyKDhJM0iL4Xk1H+aJSVUuNN6yQ0GWnhP3oUN/kikE5jgD4jg3/F7Ugb0oeYa/ TQ0fThh9z+QXrDGgp41Rq9x3dLZ1ii8+Q8t2xNvhJgVQpWVdljAbsXU4TBpX+b4x5t2L TDTA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.38.69 with SMTP id e5mr9307771obk.79.1356038908341; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:28:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.20.243 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:28:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <CAN0CFw0YgpzYkpPqPyZ7xi4AfT6BLR3yh5o3h4xW+aMgPqECQQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAN0CFw1WninDPPk4PS85ojoXTP7D1=syDS7gfYYje9vEEUacwQ@mail.gmail.com> <50CF44B4.2050107@orlitzky.com> <CAN0CFw3fUnHR65MnkTFRNtPn4APHAQ-6iHnZ8XRH_AF5i5wpog@mail.gmail.com> <20121218031156.01923a71@khamul.example.com> <CAN0CFw2FP2giQveYWAm+Po7QRkvxq2ngnV10T3s3bafw7gCzaw@mail.gmail.com> <20121218123016.3ec9c220@marcec.hunte.us> <20121218145051.097c4d65@khamul.example.com> <20121218155745.23a3ed9f@marcec.hunte.us> <CAN0CFw1Xixc6zkcbjshkqpdcZC5pR1H25=FionhLH+Vj6vnm9w@mail.gmail.com> <CA+czFiDWg90du8X=k4e0p5_-q6CnDthdi+N=iChbnmfhNx7WSg@mail.gmail.com> <CAN0CFw0YgpzYkpPqPyZ7xi4AfT6BLR3yh5o3h4xW+aMgPqECQQ@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:28:28 -0500 Message-ID: <CA+czFiA-x-T8Sy1SAYsDLsGgCBgJAiv-5f_WejQkjEFFTMQe4Q@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} open-source: chat, tasks, resources, code From: Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: c403b54e-c166-43b8-a3ff-10ae7daab58d X-Archives-Hash: a7b8c73d0f7c4a2d5ff3eba7664978c3 On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I should have specified that the people in the organization are spread out >>> in different locations. >>> >>> It sounds like it is difficult/dangerous to run an internet-facing IRC >>> server and ejabberd is unstable? >> >> This is what VPNs are for. I haven't really heard anything seriously >> problematic about ejabberd outside of some folks dislike of adding >> another language runtime. >> >> Whatever you decide to run internally, you're going to need to become >> knowledgeable in its administration. This is why a fair amount of >> folks are outsourcing communications infrastructure. Few believe they >> have the time to learn to manage the thing properly. > > Is ejabberd difficult to run over the internet safely? I doubt it. But you'd want to give the docs a thorough reading to make sure you have security questions locked down properly. Off the top of my head...don't allow remote registrations (i.e. don't allow clients to create accounts). Require SSL/TLS. Always make sure you're up on the latest security patches. Beyond that, you'd have to read docs. Which is what a lot of self-described sysadmins can't be bothered to do. -- :wq