From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1H2zAj-0003KP-19 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2007 00:12:29 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l0608xqK007478; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 00:08:59 GMT Received: from mx1.lockdownnetworks.com (red.lockdownnetworks.com [67.105.193.226]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0606IEk002668 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 00:06:18 GMT Received: from gabriel ([172.16.35.237]) by mx1.lockdownnetworks.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:06:16 -0800 From: "Daevid Vincent" To: Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] How packages are made stable - suggestion for improvement Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:06:14 -0800 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <459E83D0.4010906@gentoo.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Accw7XMcZju2q3xPTNWHFlXDg3FZnAAN4Elg Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2007 00:06:16.0945 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C6DFE10:01C73126] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id l0606IEk002668 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id l0608xqn007478 X-Archives-Salt: 11c6d099-8deb-4cce-8a51-c81d41ffc638 X-Archives-Hash: 263f94cf51371d6d64c73de0c756b4df This is a little upsetting to learn that effectively "stability" happens = as an after thought.=20 I used to run a hybrid of ~x86 and stable, but I've gotten so tired of seeing new package versions every day, I felt I was spending more time compiling to get the latest versions, than actually using my system. I recently just deleted my /etc/portage/package.keywords file and was figuring that over time, I would then end up with a nice 'stable' system = as each package caught up with the ~x86 one I was using currently. I didn't want to re-compile / downgrade everything either. But as I read this thread, it seems that in effect, I won't really be getting a more stable system, I'll just be getting an older, out of date one, as nobody is actively monitoring packages and then flagging them as stable. :( This feels like there should be some sort of cronjob running in conjuncti= on with the bug tracker. It could go through every package, and check if it'= s version is >=3D 30 days and also check the number of bugs. If there are s= ome, it should ping the maintainer (and/or) the developer of said package, otherwise, it could automatically stabilize the package flag. So on one h= and there is a little prod to get things moving, and on another, some of the manual task is reduced. Alternately, how about adding some sort of 'vote' or 'request stability' button on http://packages.gentoo.org/ for each package's detail page. Thi= s could then help 'automate' the requests and not tie up the bug tracker wi= th requests (which aren't really bugs per se). D=C6VID =20 --=20 gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list