public inbox for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Paul Hoy <paul.hoy@mac.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:53:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BFA05817-E65B-4189-B3C1-76C1604024A1@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42FFBCE4.9040606@planet.nl>

See inline


On Aug 14, 2005, at 5:51 PM, Holly Bostick wrote:

> Nick Rout schreef:
>
>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 13:12:31 -0700
>> Zac Medico wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> Are we really far behind?  That's difficult to believe.  For what  
>>> packages specifically?  Do
>>>
>>
>> you know how to unmask unstable packages (marked M or M~ at
>> packages.gentoo.org)?
>>
>> Unstable does not really cut it IMHO. I am a gentoo enthusiast  
>> through
>> and through, but plonking something in portage with a ~ beside it  
>> does
>> not constitute a release of a recent version IMHO.
>>
>>
> OK, I'll bite. What then do you consider "a release of a recent  
> version"
> to be constituted from?
>

I don't really understand your question. The most recent version to  
me coincides to a release date closest to whatever today is.

> If it's been released upstream, and it's in Portage a couple of hours
> later, so I can install it, I don't know what more you could want....
> what, you want a Mandrake- (or worse, still, Debian) -style wait of
> months before you can use the upstream version?
>

I don't agree with you. There are many examples where a file that has  
been released upstream has not found its way into Portage. I've  
provided examples elsewhere in this thread. You can also compare with  
the Fedora feedlist.


> I'll grant you that it's sometimes a little bumpy... but then you  
> might
> as well be running Slack or something (not that there's anything wrong
> with Slackware except the appalling package management).
>

I agree. I don't like like Slackware's package management either.


> But since I have yet to find a problem I couldn't solve in a few
> minutes-- and if I couldn't, it was clearly a dev issue/b.g.o issue,
> where I could generally count on it to be solved within hours, if not
> prior to my discovery-- I really can't quite see what you're on about.
>

Perhaps you've pointed out the difference in perspectives and  
experience. I've run into a few problems where it has taken me longer  
than a merely few mintues to resolve a problem.

I'm actually not "on about" anything. I'm interested in the  
differrences/similarities between LFC and Gentoo, which I stated in  
my original email.

> What would be different in the Gentoo you envision?
>

Well, that's actually the question I'm asking.

> Holly
> -- 
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>


-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-08-15  1:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-06 23:40 [gentoo-user] alsaconf not setting oss emulation Nick Rout
2005-08-06 23:59 ` [gentoo-user] SOLVED " Nick Rout
2005-08-07  0:30 ` [gentoo-user] " Christoph Eckert
2005-08-07  2:21   ` Nick Rout
2005-08-14 19:42 ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives? Paul Hoy
2005-08-14 20:12   ` Zac Medico
2005-08-14 21:38     ` Nick Rout
2005-08-14 21:51       ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-14 22:48         ` Zac Medico
2005-08-14 23:28           ` Nick Rout
2005-08-14 23:46             ` Zac Medico
2005-08-15 10:59             ` fire-eyes
2005-08-15  0:53         ` Paul Hoy [this message]
2005-08-15  1:34           ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-15  1:53             ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-14 22:13       ` Joe Menola
2005-08-14 23:40         ` Nick Rout
2005-08-15  8:28           ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-15  9:50             ` Nick Rout
2005-08-15 10:27               ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-15 13:35             ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-14 22:35       ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-15  1:08         ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-15  1:48           ` Zac Medico
2005-08-15  1:55             ` Joe Menola
2005-08-15  2:22               ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-15  2:20             ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-15  0:43       ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-14 23:42     ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-15 11:02     ` Graham Murray
2005-08-15 11:32       ` Zac Medico
2005-08-14 21:05   ` Joe Menola
2005-08-14 21:22     ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-14 21:33       ` Joe Menola
2005-08-14 22:49         ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-14 21:37     ` Nick Rout
2005-08-14 21:52       ` Joe Menola
2005-08-14 22:43     ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-14 23:26       ` Joe Menola
2005-08-15  1:25         ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-14 21:24   ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-15  0:37     ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-15  0:58       ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-15  1:39         ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-15  8:36           ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-15  1:01       ` Zac Medico
2005-08-15  1:33         ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-15  8:18       ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-15  9:06         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2005-08-15  9:54           ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-15 10:02             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2005-08-15 10:29               ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-15 10:54                 ` Zac Medico
2005-08-15  5:19   ` Walter Dnes
2005-08-15  6:22     ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-15 20:00   ` Peter Karlsson
2005-08-16  0:58     ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-16  1:11       ` Nick Rout
2005-08-16  1:56         ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-16  4:16           ` kashani
2005-08-16  4:23           ` Rumen Yotov
2005-08-21 20:05   ` Jerry McBride
2005-08-14 22:06     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2005-08-15  0:56       ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-21 22:36       ` Jerry McBride
2005-08-14 23:32         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2005-08-15  4:36         ` Barry.SCHWARTZ
2005-08-14 23:49     ` Paul Hoy
2005-08-15  8:31       ` Neil Bothwick

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=BFA05817-E65B-4189-B3C1-76C1604024A1@mac.com \
    --to=paul.hoy@mac.com \
    --cc=gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox