[gentoo-user] Gentoo-based 'filer' / GentooFiler How-To?

[gentoo-user] Gentoo-based 'filer' / GentooFiler How-To?

[Pandu Poluan]

Hello list!

Is there a how-to on how to create a 'filer' (kind of like OpenFiler)
using Gentoo?

I really don't need many things OpenFiler provided, so I think I want
to roll-out my own 'GentooFiler'.

Here's what I need:
  * iSCSI target
  * Replication
  * RAID 0 striping (redundancy will be handled by RAID 1 hardware)

Here's what I don't want:
  * Web-based GUI
  * LDAP and/or AD integration
  * NAS ability (CIFS/SAMBA, NFS, etc)

Can you point me to a how-to? Or if such howto doesn't exist yet, can
you provide me pointers on how to realize the GentooFiler?

(If there's no howto on making a GentooFiler, I'll be glad to make one
-- but do point me to the necessary resources, please.)

Thanks in advance!

Rgds,


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-based 'filer' / GentooFiler How-To?

[Florian Philipp]

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Am 14.05.2011 21:31, schrieb Pandu Poluan:
> Hello list!
> 
> Is there a how-to on how to create a 'filer' (kind of like OpenFiler)
> using Gentoo?
> 
> I really don't need many things OpenFiler provided, so I think I want
> to roll-out my own 'GentooFiler'.
> 
> Here's what I need:
>   * iSCSI target
>   * Replication
>   * RAID 0 striping (redundancy will be handled by RAID 1 hardware)
> 
> Here's what I don't want:
>   * Web-based GUI
>   * LDAP and/or AD integration
>   * NAS ability (CIFS/SAMBA, NFS, etc)
> 
> Can you point me to a how-to? Or if such howto doesn't exist yet, can
> you provide me pointers on how to realize the GentooFiler?
> 
> (If there's no howto on making a GentooFiler, I'll be glad to make one
> -- but do point me to the necessary resources, please.)
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Rgds,
> 
> 
 Gentoo wiki has something on this:
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/ISCSI

Hope this helps,
Florian Philipp


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-based 'filer' / GentooFiler How-To?

[Pandu Poluan]

Hmmm... that would be a nice start, thanks!

Now to figure out how to carry out RAID 0 Striping and Replication.

Do you think this 'GentooFiler' thingy I'm planning is worth it to be
suggested in [gentoo-project] ?

Rgds,

On 2011-05-15, Florian Philipp <lists@binarywings.net> wrote:
> Am 14.05.2011 21:31, schrieb Pandu Poluan:
>> Hello list!
>>
>> Is there a how-to on how to create a 'filer' (kind of like OpenFiler)
>> using Gentoo?
>>
>> I really don't need many things OpenFiler provided, so I think I want
>> to roll-out my own 'GentooFiler'.
>>
>> Here's what I need:
>>   * iSCSI target
>>   * Replication
>>   * RAID 0 striping (redundancy will be handled by RAID 1 hardware)
>>
>> Here's what I don't want:
>>   * Web-based GUI
>>   * LDAP and/or AD integration
>>   * NAS ability (CIFS/SAMBA, NFS, etc)
>>
>> Can you point me to a how-to? Or if such howto doesn't exist yet, can
>> you provide me pointers on how to realize the GentooFiler?
>>
>> (If there's no howto on making a GentooFiler, I'll be glad to make one
>> -- but do point me to the necessary resources, please.)
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Rgds,
>>
>>
>  Gentoo wiki has something on this:
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/ISCSI
>
> Hope this helps,
> Florian Philipp
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-based 'filer' / GentooFiler How-To?

[Florian Philipp]

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Am 15.05.2011 05:37, schrieb Pandu Poluan:
> On 2011-05-15, Florian Philipp <lists@binarywings.net> wrote:
>> Am 14.05.2011 21:31, schrieb Pandu Poluan:
>>> Hello list!
>>>
>>> Is there a how-to on how to create a 'filer' (kind of like OpenFiler)
>>> using Gentoo?
>>>
>>> I really don't need many things OpenFiler provided, so I think I want
>>> to roll-out my own 'GentooFiler'.
>>>
>>> Here's what I need:
>>>   * iSCSI target
>>>   * Replication
>>>   * RAID 0 striping (redundancy will be handled by RAID 1 hardware)
>>>
>>> Here's what I don't want:
>>>   * Web-based GUI
>>>   * LDAP and/or AD integration
>>>   * NAS ability (CIFS/SAMBA, NFS, etc)
>>>
>>> Can you point me to a how-to? Or if such howto doesn't exist yet, can
>>> you provide me pointers on how to realize the GentooFiler?
>>>
>>> (If there's no howto on making a GentooFiler, I'll be glad to make one
>>> -- but do point me to the necessary resources, please.)
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> Rgds,
>>>
>>>
>>  Gentoo wiki has something on this:
>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/ISCSI
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Florian Philipp
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Hmmm... that would be a nice start, thanks!
>
> Now to figure out how to carry out RAID 0 Striping and Replication.
>
> Do you think this 'GentooFiler' thingy I'm planning is worth it to be
> suggested in [gentoo-project] ?
>
> Rgds,
>

I think as long as you don't plan to provide code (except of some
scripts, maybe), new packages or pre-packaged VMs/live-CDs/appliances, a
wiki page will be more than enough. Maybe move it to the official Gentoo
docs once it has matured.

BTW: Please don't top-post. Put your answers below the text you are
quoting. That makes reading longer threads easier.

Regards,
Florian Philipp


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-based 'filer' / GentooFiler How-To?

[pk]

On 2011-05-15 12:05, Florian Philipp wrote:

> BTW: Please don't top-post. Put your answers below the text you are
> quoting. That makes reading longer threads easier.

Yes, but putting the text below the quoted text also assumes one keeps
only the relevant text (i.e. deletes all irrelevant text), which (sadly)
doesn't seem to be the norm these days...

Best regards

Peter K

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-based 'filer' / GentooFiler How-To?

[Pandu Poluan]

On 2011-05-15, Florian Philipp <lists@binarywings.net> wrote:
> Am 15.05.2011 05:37, schrieb Pandu Poluan:
>> On 2011-05-15, Florian Philipp <lists@binarywings.net> wrote:
>>> Am 14.05.2011 21:31, schrieb Pandu Poluan:
>>>> Hello list!
>>>>
>>>> Is there a how-to on how to create a 'filer' (kind of like OpenFiler)
>>>> using Gentoo?
>>>>
>>>> I really don't need many things OpenFiler provided, so I think I want
>>>> to roll-out my own 'GentooFiler'.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what I need:
>>>>   * iSCSI target
>>>>   * Replication
>>>>   * RAID 0 striping (redundancy will be handled by RAID 1 hardware)
>>>>
>>>> Here's what I don't want:
>>>>   * Web-based GUI
>>>>   * LDAP and/or AD integration
>>>>   * NAS ability (CIFS/SAMBA, NFS, etc)
>>>>
>>>> Can you point me to a how-to? Or if such howto doesn't exist yet, can
>>>> you provide me pointers on how to realize the GentooFiler?
>>>>
>>>> (If there's no howto on making a GentooFiler, I'll be glad to make one
>>>> -- but do point me to the necessary resources, please.)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>>
>>>> Rgds,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>  Gentoo wiki has something on this:
>>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/ISCSI
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Florian Philipp
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hmmm... that would be a nice start, thanks!
>>
>> Now to figure out how to carry out RAID 0 Striping and Replication.
>>
>> Do you think this 'GentooFiler' thingy I'm planning is worth it to be
>> suggested in [gentoo-project] ?
>>
>> Rgds,
>>
>
> I think as long as you don't plan to provide code (except of some
> scripts, maybe), new packages or pre-packaged VMs/live-CDs/appliances, a
> wiki page will be more than enough. Maybe move it to the official Gentoo
> docs once it has matured.
>

Thanks for the guidelines. I'll experiment first. I *might* go the way
of pre-packaged VMs, though, since after all that's what I'm planning
to do (i.e., GentooFiler virtual appliance on top of XenServer).

> BTW: Please don't top-post. Put your answers below the text you are
> quoting. That makes reading longer threads easier.
>
> Regards,
> Florian Philipp
>

Yeah, sorry about that. Bad habits. When you're mobile with Symbian
smartphones, circumstances will make one acquire bad habits really
quickly :(

The *only* way I can properly bottom post like now, is to visit
Gmail's 'basic HTML' interface using Nokia's browser *sigh*.

Rgds,
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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo-based 'filer' / GentooFiler How-To?

[Pandu Poluan]

On Sunday, May 15, 2011, Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:
> Hmmm... that would be a nice start, thanks!
>
> Now to figure out how to carry out RAID 0 Striping and Replication.
>
> Do you think this 'GentooFiler' thingy I'm planning is worth it to be
> suggested in [gentoo-project] ?
>
> Rgds,
>
> On 2011-05-15, Florian Philipp <lists@binarywings.net> wrote:
>> Am 14.05.2011 21:31, schrieb Pandu Poluan:
>>> Hello list!
>>>
>>> Is there a how-to on how to create a 'filer' (kind of like OpenFiler)
>>> using Gentoo?
>>>
>>> I really don't need many things OpenFiler provided, so I think I want
>>> to roll-out my own 'GentooFiler'.
>>>
>>> Here's what I need:
>>>   * iSCSI target
>>>   * Replication
>>>   * RAID 0 striping (redundancy will be handled by RAID 1 hardware)
>>>
>>> Here's what I don't want:
>>>   * Web-based GUI
>>>   * LDAP and/or AD integration
>>>   * NAS ability (CIFS/SAMBA, NFS, etc)
>>>
>>> Can you point me to a how-to? Or if such howto doesn't exist yet, can
>>> you provide me pointers on how to realize the GentooFiler?
>>>
>>> (If there's no howto on making a GentooFiler, I'll be glad to make one
>>> -- but do point me to the necessary resources, please.)
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> Rgds,
>>>
>>>
>>  Gentoo wiki has something on this:
>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/ISCSI
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Florian Philipp
>>
>>

Hmmm... The linked page is a howto on using IET and Open-iSCSI.
Elsewhere on the net, I read that tgt (Stgt?) is the replacement for
IET...

Which naturally leads to a confused me:

Is it true that tgt will replace IET?

If not (or not in the near future), what's the advantage/disadvantage
of one over the other?

If true, are there any links/howtos/tutorial on using tgt? And tuning it?

Thanks in advance!

Rgds,


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo-based 'filer' / GentooFiler How-To?

[Andrea Conti]

Hello,

> Is it true that tgt will replace IET?

Last time someone asked that question on the IET mailing list the answer
was "no". I can't find the relevant thread right now but I think the
general idea was that IET concentrates on code stability (thus no
inclusion in the kernel sources) and enterprise-oriented features, while
STGT follows kernel development and supports lots of fancy things.

Also, I think there is/was at least a partial overlap in the developers
behind the two projects.

> If true, are there any links/howtos/tutorial on using tgt? And tuning it?

I would start from the project home page, http://stgt.sourceforge.net/

HTH,
andrea

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo-based 'filer' / GentooFiler How-To?

[Pandu Poluan]

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 14:45, Andrea Conti <alyf@alyf.net> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> > Is it true that tgt will replace IET?
>
> Last time someone asked that question on the IET mailing list the answer
> was "no". I can't find the relevant thread right now but I think the
> general idea was that IET concentrates on code stability (thus no
> inclusion in the kernel sources) and enterprise-oriented features, while
> STGT follows kernel development and supports lots of fancy things.
>
> Also, I think there is/was at least a partial overlap in the developers
> behind the two projects.
>
> > If true, are there any links/howtos/tutorial on using tgt? And tuning it?
>
> I would start from the project home page, http://stgt.sourceforge.net/
>
> HTH,
> andrea
>

Ahh, thanks for the explanation.

I'd go the IET route, then; I value stability over features.

Rgds,
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