From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QKgLA-0000vZ-Aa for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 00:34:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D6BF1C011; Fri, 13 May 2011 00:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qw0-f53.google.com (mail-qw0-f53.google.com [209.85.216.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2991C011 for ; Fri, 13 May 2011 00:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwb7 with SMTP id 7so1354404qwb.40 for ; Thu, 12 May 2011 17:33:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9qA8lYqDUnmeM1/NbYEWtro6+Cmt8zIfd1thnTaMvVM=; b=dpPezlTcq/oucPxBkMIeXuIi9XENcfaQ40kkvY93sfLMyhu5krZ8b+CusqvKZeyIq4 j1jKZSr1ifaY6cRydAqGyWf2oMQ/2b7olethPlRiYFLTrxE66f/03WqHdoRnRAHqtUU7 rvFjQ7yhBYKp7M85nEx+cxJTnBKkLo8u+ooiA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bahuWAtepHh/1CuS3anmLapxogmFY4st5idxmYyBeOLgErvLKCEliDJeZtAJsJe4pZ uYzHqqwdg7V9bmzPwUf9SiTA5CH0Jt5JxPFCNuiH3IpCCnL6viEinTgITK0mQxIayqyx pM0HaJkGOQ27TaqKqOFuFmL5fZKI0jVs9IuBk= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.181.206 with SMTP id bz14mr707885qab.353.1305246800362; Thu, 12 May 2011 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.45.201 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2011 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DCC7600.2010807@earthlink.net> References: <20110512210358.GA21368@gaurahari> <4DCC7600.2010807@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 17:33:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 62f1dfe924a7911dc3cc33969d857b88 On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2011/05/12 17:03 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: > >> On 2011/05/12 16:41 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed: > >>> =C2=A0http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3D1&c= hap=3D6 >>> seems to >>> =C2=A0have a circular reference, that is, suggesting the use of the sub= ject >>> utility >>> =C2=A0prior to chrooting and having any such utility in $PATH. I've nev= er >>> installed >>> =C2=A0Gentoo before, so maybe I've missed something. Or maybe that page= could >>> use >>> =C2=A0another link or some rewrite to clarify? > >>> =C2=A0I tried to find an answer via http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-u= ser/ >>> but it >>> =C2=A0seems to lack a search function/box. :-( > >> It's been quite awhile since I installed, but ISTR that mirrorselect >> must be emerged after chrooting into the new envirnment. >> You can also just add mirrors manually, like this: > >> GENTOO_MIRRORS=3D"http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/gentoo/ >> ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/gentoo/" > > Since I'm familiar and happy with mirrors.us.kernel.org performance, I mi= ght > rather use that, or rsync.us.gentoo.org (if that's not yet another/separa= te > entry make.conf needs, not clear from my reading of the OP URL). So all > GENTOO_MIRRORS needs is the same URL once as http and once as ftp, or is > that something specific to mcs.anl.gov? > > It's encouraging to try a new distro, join its mailing list, ask a questi= on, > and get 3 answers within half an hour of asking, and even get one 17 minu= tes > before I asked the question (2011/05/12 16:24 (GMT-0400) Todd Goodman usi= ng > Mutt). :-) > > In the pages preceding > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3D1&chap=3D6 = it > seemed as though the process would be easy enough, having built up some > experience working in chroot lately to fix fubar'd Fedora and Mandriva rp= m > database disasters (https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D32547 & > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D680508). > > I guess I missed the requirement to be running Gentoo to be able to initi= ate > an install of Gentoo. I thought whatever Linux was already installed woul= d > be good enough, until I got to the mirrorselect instructions, and found n= o > incorporated alternative such as Indi has replied with. =C2=A0Indeed, not= needing > to have booted Gentoo to run a Gentoo installer was part of the allure th= at > got me started. > > I have more than 20 functional multiboot puters, with few having less tha= n 4 > installed operating systems. More typical is 12+. What I use 24/7 are > openSUSE and eComStation. Most of the rest are either backup, or > [OS,browser,web site] testing only. > -- > "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant > words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) > > =C2=A0Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! > > Felix Miata =C2=A0*** =C2=A0http://fm.no-ip.com/ > > Felix, Welcome. OK, I personally think (not speaking for anyone except myself here...) that the Gentoo Install Guide is based on what Todd suggested - the *idea* that the person that's following it booted a Gentoo Install CD. That' a pretty natural assumption I think. You want to install Fedora, you boot a Fedora CD, Ubuntu, Ubuntu CD, etc. That does _not_ mean however that you MUST boot a Gentoo Install CD, and it doesn't mean that you have to follow the guide explicitly. For instance, I seldom set up mirrorselect on new installs as I generally just copy a make.conf file from another machine and that copy has the address. I typically don't use links to download the two big tar file, I do that on some other machine that's already running Gentoo and the ssh them over to do the new install. I guess the point is that there are about as many ways as you want to do this install. The documentation folks did what works for most people and let others proceed on their own as they wish. Hope this helps, Mark