From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QPpCW-0005X7-8n for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 27 May 2011 05:03:10 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CF751C01D; Fri, 27 May 2011 05:01:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vx0-f181.google.com (mail-vx0-f181.google.com [209.85.220.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1F71C01D for ; Fri, 27 May 2011 05:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxb39 with SMTP id 39so1435379vxb.40 for ; Thu, 26 May 2011 22:01:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uLcNqAl7bQZULI1+QbAAOj+fHuvQQNYGGEeoWesTF3g=; b=wnMPBGMR8IoN5B8uQIhblNP64RXkJGZe02+M3SRistlgxFm/JZ3YUBB/+0WOB/PcRi 7OARprIZFL+vKvQiZWmRRXXg4Dpi4PHAM6EfCzInnSq6kxoeQUp1KNp3LS/ruBSO1Y6C QtoYPcVUbnZYN5B7c/dtrfkBM/sKtFBFwapO0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=uSmYpooxgjiVgvGwl0uxAF/Bi3vFbzDTHopLjTpk+qrLSAYpWv4QEYi1DePD5w0tRS 5Myl79jUHa6wbG/34gdd9l0ke94rXSWiSLOiywDo0Tq7zudAuIgbBEHpZu6IaJ2rETaE lAnkPlifJD+l8PEb+iTZHm8Q3FKqlMp/H69J8= Received: by 10.52.186.69 with SMTP id fi5mr2379882vdc.205.1306472497089; Thu, 26 May 2011 22:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: paul.hartman@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.157.234 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2011 22:01:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Paul Hartman Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 00:01:16 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qXTmcxh3U3xfwh0SmDFG23H4Hig Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye, Gentoo To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 0b230b94845be4a2012964370d2112f6 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > It looks like it's time to take Gentoo off of my main machine.=A0 I feel = a > little sad about it, or I'd just quietly go away. > > A few months ago, an update made the machine headless -- well, it could n= o > longer bring up X but I could use the console-mode for admin, and log in = via > SSH from my laptop and run GUI programs.=A0 I was busy at the time, first > deciding and then implementing my retirement, so I let it go. Sorry to see you go! > The real headache is all the stuff I'm going to have to port. > > 1) Apache and dynamic (Python CGI) web site. > 2) Postfix > 3) About a dozen accounts that just do wget(1) data gathering triggered b= y > the cron daemon. > 4) DNS (I run my own domain on a commercial DSL account) > 5) NTP client and server > 6) Whatever else I forgot I set up over the years. Maybe you can run them from your previous gentoo installation inside a chroot until you can reproduce them in Ubuntu proper. > My original reason for using Gentoo is that this machine was pretty exoti= c > when I bought it, and I wanted to be able to tweak the compiler to get th= e > most out of it.=A0 I can still do that for specific applications I'm work= ing > on, but otherwise it's really a non-issue now.=A0 I have gotten pretty ti= red > of updates that take over 48 hours to compile, and the occasional mess-up > that once or twice led me to rebuild with empty-tree and took a week or s= o. I have a laptop from 2004 and am increasingly irritated by the slow build times. Keeping Gentoo up-to-date with it takes a very long time, especially since I use it so infrequently. Having several days worth of compiling just to bring it up to date is tiring, when it causes the fan to blow at full speed (and full decibels) and heat which approaches that of the Sun. If I ever get around to it, I'm going to give Sabayon a try. Hopefully then I'll have the familiar Gentoo setup but without the building from source. > So I guess I shouldn't complain (and I'm not).=A0 I'm just not in the tar= get > market for Gentoo any more.=A0 It was fun, though. After using Gentoo for so many years, I find the maintenance in Ubuntu to be rather anti-climactic. "256 packages to update? Oh no! Oh, look, it's done already." :) Good luck and congratulations on your retirement. Paul