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From: "J. Roeleveld" <joost@antarean.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CPU upgrade and LVM questions.
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 18:57:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AFB95BD7-8F5E-4496-9312-51412A0FF3E0@antarean.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ee3a3769-c5cd-4978-2e9b-a184538f1fd8@gmx.com>

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On December 9, 2018 6:23:07 PM UTC, "Taiidan@gmx.com" <Taiidan@gmx.com> wrote:
>On 12/07/2018 06:47 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> On 07/12/2018 09:30, Dale wrote:
>>> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>>> If you want to see all of the installed packages that are affected,
>>>> you need to set CPU_FLAGS_X86 to an empty string:
>>>>
>>>>    CPU_FLAGS_X86=""
>>>>
>>>> and then do "emerge -puDN --with-bdeps=y @world". This is because
>>>> CPU_FLAGS_X86 is not empty by default. It contains sse and sse2 by
>>>> default, because these are supported by all 64-bit CPUs.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What I did, I commented out the whole line and ran it that way.
>> 
>> If you comment it out, it will have default values. If you set it to
>an
>> empty string, you should be able to see which packages make use of
>the
>> default flags (like sse and sse2.)
>> 
>> Note it's a pretend emerge (-p). Just to check which packages you
>have
>> installed that make use of these flags.
>> 
>> 
>>> One last question for anyone who has done this recently.  When
>finished,
>>> I'll have a FX-8350 CPU with 8 cores at 4.0/4.2GHz, 32GBs of memory
>all
>>> on a Gigabyte 970 series mobo.  Would there be any point in
>upgrading to
>>> a whole new rig or is what I have about as fast is reasonable to
>build?
>>> I don't do gaming or anything.  Even the GTX 650 video card is
>likely
>>> overkill for what I do here.  The older 200 series card is working
>just
>>> fine.  On one hand, my current build is several years old.  On the
>>> other, computers seem to have reached their peak.  I'm sure there is
>>> more powerful systems out there but would I be any better off with
>one?
>
>Since the AM3+ and its C32/G34 Opteron counterparts are the last and
>best x86 cpus without ME/PSP I would say you are better off with what
>you have - the best piledriver cpus like the FX-8350+ are still able to
>play the latest games and in a VM via IOMMU-GFX if you want.
>
>In any case I would consider a OpenPOWER (ppc64/ppc64le) arch system
>(like the blackbird or talos 2) as an upgrade path instead of any
>futher
>x86 stuff as there aren't any black boxes, there is
>documentation+firmware sources and the cpus are made in usa.

Made in USA isn't necessarily a good thing when talking about not wanting any hidden back doors.
Not sure which country would be a reliable location though, I wouldn't trust Western European countries either.

--
Joost
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-09 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-06  9:27 [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions Dale
2018-12-06 10:03 ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-06 15:17   ` Dale
2018-12-06 16:51   ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-06 18:36 ` Corbin Bird
2018-12-06 20:58   ` Dale
2018-12-06 21:24     ` Jack
2018-12-06 21:55       ` Dale
2018-12-07  1:06     ` Corbin Bird
2018-12-07  1:17       ` Dale
2018-12-07  5:10         ` Dale
2018-12-07  6:22           ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-07  7:30             ` Dale
2018-12-07 10:49               ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2018-12-07 23:47               ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-07 23:59                 ` Dale
2018-12-09 18:23                 ` Taiidan
2018-12-09 18:57                   ` J. Roeleveld [this message]
2018-12-09 22:41                     ` Dale
2018-12-10 21:33                     ` Taiidan
2018-12-10 22:14                       ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-10 22:54                         ` Dale
2018-12-11  2:00                           ` Taiidan
2018-12-11  8:49                             ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-11  9:23                               ` Mick
2018-12-11 10:48                               ` Dale
2018-12-11 15:14                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-11 22:46                               ` Adam Carter
2018-12-11 23:56                                 ` Dale
2018-12-12  2:15                                   ` Adam Carter
2018-12-11 10:20                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-11 15:03                             ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-07  8:47         ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2018-12-07  8:58           ` Dale
2018-12-06 21:02 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-06 21:45   ` Dale
2018-12-06 22:22     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-06 23:23       ` Dale
2018-12-06 23:40         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-07  0:19           ` Dale
2018-12-07 10:01             ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-07 12:41               ` Dale
2018-12-07 16:51                 ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-08  1:01                   ` Dale
2018-12-08  2:51                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-08  4:39                       ` Dale
2018-12-08  5:33                       ` David Haller
2018-12-08  5:45                         ` Dale
2018-12-08  6:00                         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-08  6:28                           ` David Haller
2018-12-08  4:23                 ` David Haller
2018-12-08  5:35                   ` Dale
2018-12-08  6:06                     ` David Haller
2018-12-08  5:38                   ` David Haller
2018-12-08  9:40                     ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-08  9:50                       ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-06 21:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Taylor
2018-12-09 22:45   ` Dale
2018-12-10  1:35     ` Grant Taylor
2018-12-10  2:38       ` Dale
2018-12-10  3:37         ` Grant Taylor
2018-12-10  9:27         ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-10 16:00           ` Dale
2018-12-08 17:49 ` Alexander Puchmayr
2018-12-08 18:23   ` Dale
2018-12-08 19:09     ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-08 20:48       ` Dale
2018-12-11 10:41 ` Dale
2018-12-22 23:58 ` Dale

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