[gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice

[gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice

[Mick]

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I am puzzled by this problem.  One box of mine seems to be unable to show the 
GBP sign in OpenOffice.  In any OOo application it shows a capital A with 
umlauts and then shows the £ sign.

In the OOo Language Settings I have selected as Default Currency "GBP £ 
English (UK)" just as I have on two other boxen, which work fine.

The locales are the same LC_MONETARY="en_GB.UTF-8" on all of them.

Any ideas?
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Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice

[Mark Knecht]

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am puzzled by this problem.  One box of mine seems to be unable to show the
> GBP sign in OpenOffice.  In any OOo application it shows a capital A with
> umlauts and then shows the £ sign.
>
> In the OOo Language Settings I have selected as Default Currency "GBP £
> English (UK)" just as I have on two other boxen, which work fine.
>
> The locales are the same LC_MONETARY="en_GB.UTF-8" on all of them.
>
> Any ideas?
> --
> Regards,
> Mick
>

No real idea but possibly:

Different font sets installed?

Incorrect/different font paths in xorg.config?

I don't use OO so I cannot speak to it's internal settings.

Good luck,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice

[Mick]

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On Friday 06 August 2010 21:13:06 Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I am puzzled by this problem.  One box of mine seems to be unable to show
> > the GBP sign in OpenOffice.  In any OOo application it shows a capital A
> > with umlauts and then shows the £ sign.
> > 
> > In the OOo Language Settings I have selected as Default Currency "GBP £
> > English (UK)" just as I have on two other boxen, which work fine.
> > 
> > The locales are the same LC_MONETARY="en_GB.UTF-8" on all of them.
> > 
> > Any ideas?

> No real idea but possibly:
> 
> Different font sets installed?
> 
> Incorrect/different font paths in xorg.config?

Thanks Mark,

The fonts are the same (or at least 95% or more the same).  None of the 
machines in question are using an xorg.conf.

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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice

[Mick]

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On Friday 06 August 2010 21:13:06 Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I am puzzled by this problem.  One box of mine seems to be unable to show
> > the GBP sign in OpenOffice.  In any OOo application it shows a capital A
> > with umlauts and then shows the £ sign.
> > 
> > In the OOo Language Settings I have selected as Default Currency "GBP £
> > English (UK)" just as I have on two other boxen, which work fine.
> > 
> > The locales are the same LC_MONETARY="en_GB.UTF-8" on all of them.
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Mick
> 
> No real idea but possibly:
> 
> Different font sets installed?
> 
> Incorrect/different font paths in xorg.config?
> 
> I don't use OO so I cannot speak to it's internal settings.
> 
> Good luck,
> Mark

I looked at this box again and it transpires that it also has this problem in 
Kmail, not just OOo.  There don't seem to be any other problems with the 
characterset or keyboard, only the GBP sign.
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 17 August 2010 08:28:11 you wrote:
> On Friday 06 August 2010 21:13:06 Mark Knecht wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I am puzzled by this problem.  One box of mine seems to be unable to
> > > show the GBP sign in OpenOffice.  In any OOo application it shows a
> > > capital A with umlauts and then shows the £ sign.
> > > 
> > > In the OOo Language Settings I have selected as Default Currency "GBP £
> > > English (UK)" just as I have on two other boxen, which work fine.
> > > 
> > > The locales are the same LC_MONETARY="en_GB.UTF-8" on all of them.
> > > 
> > > Any ideas?
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > Mick
> > 
> > No real idea but possibly:
> > 
> > Different font sets installed?
> > 
> > Incorrect/different font paths in xorg.config?
> > 
> > I don't use OO so I cannot speak to it's internal settings.
> > 
> > Good luck,
> > Mark
> 
> I looked at this box again and it transpires that it also has this problem
> in Kmail, not just OOo.  There don't seem to be any other problems with
> the characterset or keyboard, only the GBP sign.

Just adding to this, the £ sign works fine on the console.  It is the X 
applications (including terminals) that seem to have the problem with the '£' 
sign.
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 17 August 2010 20:23:08 Mick wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 August 2010 08:28:11 you wrote:
> > On Friday 06 August 2010 21:13:06 Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Mick 
<michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I am puzzled by this problem.  One box of mine seems to be
> > > > unable to show the GBP sign in OpenOffice.  In any OOo
> > > > application it shows a capital A with umlauts and then
> > > > shows the £ sign.
> > > >
> > > > In the OOo Language Settings I have selected as Default
> > > > Currency "GBP £ English (UK)" just as I have on two other
> > > > boxen, which work fine.
> > > >
> > > > The locales are the same LC_MONETARY="en_GB.UTF-8" on all
> > > > of them.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Mick
> > >
> > > No real idea but possibly:
> > >
> > > Different font sets installed?
> > >
> > > Incorrect/different font paths in xorg.config?
> > >
> > > I don't use OO so I cannot speak to it's internal settings.
> > >
> > > Good luck,
> > > Mark
> >
> > I looked at this box again and it transpires that it also has
> > this problem in Kmail, not just OOo.  There don't seem to be
> > any other problems with the characterset or keyboard, only the
> > GBP sign.
>
> Just adding to this, the £ sign works fine on the console.  It is
> the X applications (including terminals) that seem to have the
> problem with the '£' sign.

Why not use xmodmap? Here's a line from my $HOME/.Xmodmap:
	keycode  12 = 3 sterling threesuperior Greek_OMEGA

Evoke using "xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap"

Shift+3=£; Shift+AltGr+3=Ω; AltGr+3=³

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 17 August 2010 23:10:31 Peter Ruskin wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 August 2010 20:23:08 Mick wrote:
> > On Tuesday 17 August 2010 08:28:11 you wrote:
> > > On Friday 06 August 2010 21:13:06 Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Mick
> 
> <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I am puzzled by this problem.  One box of mine seems to be
> > > > > unable to show the GBP sign in OpenOffice.  In any OOo
> > > > > application it shows a capital A with umlauts and then
> > > > > shows the £ sign.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In the OOo Language Settings I have selected as Default
> > > > > Currency "GBP £ English (UK)" just as I have on two other
> > > > > boxen, which work fine.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The locales are the same LC_MONETARY="en_GB.UTF-8" on all
> > > > > of them.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > --
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Mick
> > > > 
> > > > No real idea but possibly:
> > > > 
> > > > Different font sets installed?
> > > > 
> > > > Incorrect/different font paths in xorg.config?
> > > > 
> > > > I don't use OO so I cannot speak to it's internal settings.
> > > > 
> > > > Good luck,
> > > > Mark
> > > 
> > > I looked at this box again and it transpires that it also has
> > > this problem in Kmail, not just OOo.  There don't seem to be
> > > any other problems with the characterset or keyboard, only the
> > > GBP sign.
> > 
> > Just adding to this, the £ sign works fine on the console.  It is
> > the X applications (including terminals) that seem to have the
> > problem with the '£' sign.
> 
> Why not use xmodmap? Here's a line from my $HOME/.Xmodmap:
> 	keycode  12 = 3 sterling threesuperior Greek_OMEGA
> 
> Evoke using "xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap"
> 
> Shift+3=£; Shift+AltGr+3=Ω; AltGr+3=³

Thanks Peter, I've tried this and it does not work.  :-(
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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Am Dienstag, 17. August 2010 schrieb Mick:

> > > > I am puzzled by this problem.  One box of mine seems to be unable to
> > > > show the GBP sign in OpenOffice.  In any OOo application it shows a
> > > > capital A with umlauts and then shows the £ sign.
> > > > 
> > > > In the OOo Language Settings I have selected as Default Currency "GBP
> > > > £ English (UK)" just as I have on two other boxen, which work fine.
> > > > 
> > > > The locales are the same LC_MONETARY="en_GB.UTF-8" on all of them.
> > > 
> > > Different font sets installed?

Seeing a character as Ä or à and someting looks more like an encoding problem, 
because usually à and something is unicode interpreted as single-byte.

> > > I don't use OO so I cannot speak to it's internal settings.
> > > 
> > > Good luck,
> > > Mark
> > 
> > I looked at this box again and it transpires that it also has this
> > problem in Kmail, not just OOo.  There don't seem to be any other
> > problems with the characterset or keyboard, only the GBP sign.
> 
> Just adding to this, the £ sign works fine on the console.  It is the X
> applications (including terminals) that seem to have the problem with the
> '£' sign.

I assume you use KDE because you mention KMail. What have you set in KDE’s 
keyboard layout (Personal -> Regional Settings)? (Or if not KDE, then in 
$your_DE’s settingss)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 18 August 2010 19:58:14 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:

> > Just adding to this, the £ sign works fine on the console.  It is the X
> > applications (including terminals) that seem to have the problem with the
> > '£' sign.
> 
> I assume you use KDE because you mention KMail. What have you set in KDE’s
> keyboard layout (Personal -> Regional Settings)? (Or if not KDE, then in
> $your_DE’s settingss)

Yes, this box is running KDE.

The regional settings show "United Kingdom".

The only thing that is different to other boxen of mine is that I have not set 
up /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi to define:

<merge key="input.xkb.layout" type="string">uk</merge>

When I set up such a file in /etc/ then I can no longer use the keyboard in 
KDE.  I have to fall back to a console and work from there.
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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Am Mittwoch, 18. August 2010 schrieb Mick:
> On Wednesday 18 August 2010 19:58:14 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> > > Just adding to this, the £ sign works fine on the console.  It is the X
> > > applications (including terminals) that seem to have the problem with
> > > the '£' sign.
> > 
> > I assume you use KDE because you mention KMail. What have you set in
> > KDE’s keyboard layout (Personal -> Regional Settings)? (Or if not KDE,
> > then in $your_DE’s settingss)
> 
> Yes, this box is running KDE.
> 
> The regional settings show "United Kingdom".

Hm.. either here’s a misunderstanding or you looked at the wrong place 
(because in Regional Settings, there is also a tab with "Region" in its name). 
I meant the active layout in the "Keyboard Layout" tab, where you have dozens 
of countries to chose from and where you can enable/disable the display of a 
flag in the tray area. Did you mean that one?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice

[Mick]

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On Thursday 19 August 2010 05:01:45 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 18. August 2010 schrieb Mick:
> > On Wednesday 18 August 2010 19:58:14 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> > > > Just adding to this, the £ sign works fine on the console.  It is the
> > > > X applications (including terminals) that seem to have the problem
> > > > with the '£' sign.
> > > 
> > > I assume you use KDE because you mention KMail. What have you set in
> > > KDE’s keyboard layout (Personal -> Regional Settings)? (Or if not KDE,
> > > then in $your_DE’s settingss)
> > 
> > Yes, this box is running KDE.
> > 
> > The regional settings show "United Kingdom".
> 
> Hm.. either here’s a misunderstanding or you looked at the wrong place
> (because in Regional Settings, there is also a tab with "Region" in its
> name). I meant the active layout in the "Keyboard Layout" tab, where you
> have dozens of countries to chose from and where you can enable/disable
> the display of a flag in the tray area. Did you mean that one?

Ah! Yes, I have 'United Kingdom' in active keyboard layouts too.  It also 
shows keyboard model: Generic 104-key PC and Command: setxkbmap -model pc104 -
layout gb.

I suspect that this problem is related to the fact that I do not have a 
xorg.conf setting to change the keyboard from the default US to UK and I 
cannot set a hal/fdi file in /etc because I lose the keyboard completely in 
kdm and cannot login (the infamous 'Dale' bug ...!)
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Mick

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