From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ot1Cg-0001f4-PR for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:39:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B76D0E0BC8; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qw0-f53.google.com (mail-qw0-f53.google.com [209.85.216.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E99E0BC8 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwe5 with SMTP id 5so5614654qwe.40 for ; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:39:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CrbFVLWScWSwFXtG4KArFZ3uNCvMrW9cJZNF9u8tnAg=; b=AJ4JC5YgyuiyjpUQkD7Nw4v+w1anw5neNlRBkYn15/RrMfcFGJausd/4VhUwY/1XW6 i1/SY3ZcFHhBNUrPkRAWNH97DnVYmgP14cArLR9GzFM7TUFvJvi+PBB3tDJBqac9Q9A3 8xNkupRcPz31pXbBB5ihjj1xSKAieHuE+oUhQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=G2tDzKREDMyaLpLSoWw+pVfGi4OSR7e43sGo3TKJpoTMGsCdfCInC9mpCC9BA4GxfV LXsbmDln9NxazSmJ8yJ5GbdAX/XhwB7OG+fCoaPEPwfgtaRTuIkBIurpIRcZhhsitDXb MgUWmyGzR1wGbgdBcyakjpqRvqY7dg/L7Hzgg= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.181.73 with SMTP id bx9mr398115qcb.70.1283877545194; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.217.206 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:39:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4C856E60.1040608@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:39:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant From: "Kevin O'Gorman" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e640d0640434b6048fae0993 X-Archives-Salt: db79780e-933f-40d0-9e49-5bd6b7841af9 X-Archives-Hash: 1094c0fc243ad024114e6343ff3e5430 --0016e640d0640434b6048fae0993 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Al wrote: > Jake > > [snip] > > Why say that "lists are dead early"? This list I find takes a certain > > amount of maintenance to keep up-to-date, otherwise it grows to an > > unmanageable number of e-mails in my Inbox. If anything, it's "too > > Well that is the first advantage of a newsreader. It does not spam > your mailbox. You select yourself what you want to read by the header. > The other contents are never delivered to you, eat up neither traffic > nor space. People don't really need to complain of to much traffic. > [SNIP SNIP] > Al > You get the same advantage with some email accounts, if you use them right. For instance, this account on gmail is used for mailing lists only. Because it's gmail I can use filters to attach labels naming the list it comes from. Any spam that gets through will be in the minority that do not have a label attached, and I can ditch them forthwith. Because it's gmail, I have a private archive of all of my mailing lists going back to 2004, and I'm only using 35% of my (constantly increasing) 7.8GB allocation. If I want, I can search on this stuff without getting false positives from lists I don't subscribe to. I can also filter some mailgroups to go directly to the archive, so they only speak when spoken to. I use my ISP for personal mail, and a work account for work. My point: it's easier and more pleasant to find the right tool for the job, rather than complain about what anyone else is doing. For me, case closed and I can go back to doing what I want. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD --0016e640d0640434b6048fae0993 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Al <oss.elmar@googlemail.c= om> wrote:
Jake

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[snip]
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> Why say that "lists are dead early"? =A0This list I find tak= es a certain
> amount of maintenance to keep up-to-date, otherwise it grows to an
> unmanageable number of e-mails in my Inbox. =A0If anything, it's &= quot;too

Well that is the first advantage of a newsreader. It does not spam your mailbox. You select yourself what you want to read by the header.
The other contents are never delivered to you, eat up neither traffic
nor space. People don't really need to complain of to much traffic.
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=A0
[SNIP SNIP]
=A0
Al

You get the same advantage with some email ac= counts, if you use them
right.=A0 For instance, this account on gmail is= used for mailing lists only.
Because it's gmail I can use filters t= o attach labels naming the list it
comes from.=A0 Any spam that gets through will be in the minority that
d= o not have a label attached, and I can ditch them forthwith.

Because= it's gmail, I have a private archive of all of my mailing lists
goi= ng back to 2004, and I'm only using 35% of my (constantly increasing) 7.8GB allocation.=A0 If I want, I can search on this stuff without getting = false positives
from lists I don't subscribe to.
I can also filter some mailgroups to go directly to the archive, so they = only
speak when spoken to.

I use my ISP for personal mail, and a work acc= ount for work.

My point: it's easier and more pleasant to find t= he right tool for the job,
rather than complain about what anyone else i= s doing.=A0 For me, case
closed and I can go back to doing what I want.

--
Kevin O'Go= rman, PhD

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