From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1P6NK3-00033j-TB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:54:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A96FCE07C1; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D82CE07C1 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so6475885wwc.10 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:52:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PySrapapQo8PaafROflIDUpjuC7IZPT5FEh05AoPIuw=; b=gqo29at1L23yJJ6UcSyA9P9xdKExuAGyXONjvcmdZhd0F9tR1VbzWiJtkOPwl7j0uS s3XURChvUbi03a/tIpKVCcVi+iiyuAIzjzRJ34LojLEsHohVMopoJgmyzes2Kg0VLIgd 39lWCG576Oco30sRBG/Eyk7YFI7OJXqfdwCx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LbsvL7USOQtN7kIzXK35LJ3OSxXkYu7swPRuhyCjzBOYPiKp1L8ji4ZAbnvvJ+8mee dK3cbEcsbHzINegzQYZqCZbJmNJjVN9ByooW3HSDNaUo0/OXATnKrvEM9WL7BBsjp7gj r0NcOcY+cyl+thY/oc0l9wjNk3IZFt+5x+Q8s= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.28.77 with SMTP id f55mr1417350wea.91.1287060778704; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.7.204 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:52:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010131659.25607.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <20101013174046.34cded4e@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <20101013173041.GA23937@math.princeton.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:52:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DNS Issues [Was: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow Login, Sudo, etc.] From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: a4c26655-2367-492a-9cbd-17a9aa562d6a X-Archives-Hash: a60bd5836d4cd5729e5f557ae324494b On 13 October 2010 20:00, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Willie Wong wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:17:02PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: >>> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:59:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> > >>> >> Seriously, just use wicd, dump the rest. >>> > >>> > +1 >>> >>> Call me old-fashioned, I use wpa_supplicant. :) >> >> Actually, I'll call you confused :) > > You are probably right. :) In my brain I was only thinking about > wireless networks. It never occurred to me to need network management > for wired connections as well (I've never had any need for it so it > didn't enter my mind). > > All I've ever done with wired network is enable dhcp in > /etc/conf.d/net and install ifplugd. For wireless I enable > wpa_supplicant module in /etc/conf.d/net and add the networks either > manually to the config file or by using wpa_supplicant's GUI for > scanning, adding and editing the defined networks. Everything starts > automatically when I turn on my computer and connects automatically. I > don't do any /etc/init.d/net.xxx stuff manually at all. Same here and no, I would not call you confused at all. The wpa_supplicant *gui* does what NM/wicd do with wireless networks, albeit less glamorously. BTW, configuring /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf for your known/permanent APs is not really difficult, when using the well commented example file as a guide. /etc/init.d/net is also relatively easy to configure for using arp with particular subnets. Now, about being old fashioned ... hmmm ... PS. For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not advocating that everyone *must* use the existing /etc/init.d/ scripts instead of NM/wicd - just choose what suits you best - this is Gentoo after all. :-) -- Regards, Mick