From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OdgUT-0007qA-4a for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:30:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A32BCE08F9; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6314E08F9 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:29:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb36 with SMTP id 36so3777244wyb.40 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:29:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=r4dRGR2+65w4fPdUKMeJIRlv3KG4ODOI7FSuelbxHuA=; b=gpDSCULU7JljRG/J0qs/VTlGivGehpQERSAhRJyGIk7WcNZffZkfzaA4KBD4Y8Qybm MZII5JmShxpMkTa/V3nGRjNpO0GgeYSI+PaxDyExJyBtrSdxrbzrxZrsm4PCKNPuSkXO YLdLlwoNYH/kBI4bMNfaxSk2L3+4Bs26SIeQ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=m0HrSlG8HGYcCu/WYvvXnFt0ACFaDDQnwY+AlTYMD4nc/dk/7aLzCy9APQVFAM8CVf X0tksNgglj6U+cdu3DxEAfccOsOkut4A7UuK4yvUe09/zugykbL/Rw1KnkL8xs+MZ5TD Fe7VbugpMpJSHa9rrjOnSj6wfR2ee7nLEceas= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.147.141 with SMTP id l13mr8547655wbv.229.1280222950937; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.59.72 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:29:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C4DB881.9080805@f_philipp.fastmail.net> References: <4C4C5F89.2010505@f_philipp.fastmail.net> <4C4DB881.9080805@f_philipp.fastmail.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:29:10 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: State of Radeon drivers From: App Deb To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f1e9ca397286048c5b2211 X-Archives-Salt: e70157bb-f7cd-4a12-87ac-78a6e1059d55 X-Archives-Hash: f05a844efc5c0f4f5fbf607dc434432f --001485f1e9ca397286048c5b2211 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 If you are going to use any *nix, nvidia is the best option for years now. The nvidia closed source drivers are of professional quality and have great performance. Actually they are the *standard* for graphics in *nix, and many (professional or not) applications actually support only nvidia. The ati oss driver is still under development, sometimes it works ok, sometimes not, and it is mostly for basic desktop usage and in my opinion it is progressing too slow. Anyway, I don't like having a driver that uses 10% of my hardware's capabilties. So until it actually reaches 100% (like the rest of the linux drivers) I can't recommend ATI on linux and nvidia is the way to go. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Florian Philipp < lists@f_philipp.fastmail.net> wrote: > Am 26.07.2010 01:01, schrieb James: > > Florian Philipp f_philipp.fastmail.net> writes: > > > > > >> I have a quick question: I plan to buy a notebook with an ATI Mobility > >> Radeon HD 4250. How well would that one work? Can I reasonably expect > >> Suspend2Ram, 3d acceleration etc to work stable? > > > > Well, lots of good information previously posted. Here's a > > few more tidbits. When ATI video get's older, there's > > always good opensource solutions to keep using it. Nvidia, > > sometimes you toss in garbage can, or use vesa or > > get lucky? Dunno, as I personally avoid Nvidia; other > > insist on Nvidia..... kinda a religious thing with some..... > > > > Hehe, religious is the right word. I remember a situation at my > workplace: The admin of our departement IT ordered a Linux workstation > with (fully supported) ATI graphics. At the last second he was overruled > by the head of our institute's IT in favor of a completely unsupported > and more expensive NVidia card. Not only did the poor guy have to wait > two more weeks for the shipment to arrive, he was also stuck with the > VESA driver for half a year and unstable NVidia drivers ever since. > > Well, thanks everyone who answered! Problem solved. > > Florian Philipp > > --001485f1e9ca397286048c5b2211 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you are going to use any *nix, nvidia is the best option for years now. = The nvidia closed source drivers are of professional quality and have great= performance. Actually they are the *standard* for graphics in *nix, and ma= ny (professional or not) applications actually support only nvidia.

The ati oss driver is still under development, sometimes it = works ok, sometimes not, and it is mostly for basic desktop usage and=C2=A0= in my opinion it is progressing too slow. Anyway, I don't like having a= driver that uses 10% of my hardware's capabilties. So until it actuall= y reaches 100% (like the rest of the linux drivers) I can't recommend A= TI on linux and nvidia is the way to go.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Floria= n Philipp <lists@f_philipp.fastmail.net> wrote:
Am 26.07.2010 01:01, schrieb James:
> Florian Philipp <lists <at> f_philipp.fastmail.net>= writes:
>
>
>> I have a quick question: I plan to buy a notebook with an ATI Mobi= lity
>> Radeon HD 4250. How well would that one work? Can I reasonably exp= ect
>> Suspend2Ram, 3d acceleration etc to work stable?
>
> Well, lots of good information previously posted. Here's a
> few more tidbits. When ATI video get's older, there's
> always good opensource solutions to keep using it. Nvidia,
> sometimes you toss in garbage can, or use vesa or
> get lucky? Dunno, as I personally avoid Nvidia; other
> insist on Nvidia..... kinda a religious thing with some.....
>

Hehe, religious is the right word. I remember a situation at my
workplace: The admin of our departement IT ordered a Linux workstation
with (fully supported) ATI graphics. At the last second he was overruled by the head of our institute's IT in favor of a completely unsupported<= br> and more expensive NVidia card. Not only did the poor guy have to wait
two more weeks for the shipment to arrive, he was also stuck with the
VESA driver for half a year and unstable NVidia drivers ever since.

Well, thanks everyone who answered! Problem solved.

Florian Philipp


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