<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Mick <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:michaelkintzios@gmail.com">michaelkintzios@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="h5">On Sunday 31 October 2010 17:03:32 Graham Murray wrote:<br>
&gt; Mick &lt;<a href="mailto:michaelkintzios@gmail.com">michaelkintzios@gmail.com</a>&gt; writes:<br>
&gt; &gt; MSWindows changed it to winter time when I eventually booted into it.<br>
&gt; &gt; Gentoo wouldn&#39;t show the winter time until I had first booted into<br>
&gt; &gt; MSWindows.  If the setting CLOCK=&quot;local&quot; is meant to make Gentoo use the<br>
&gt; &gt; hardware clock like MSWindows does, why it did not behave the same as<br>
&gt; &gt; MSWindows with the DST change?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Gentoo uses the &quot;CLOCK=&quot; value when it boots. It uses this to determine<br>
&gt; the initial system time. If you set to &#39;UTC&#39; then the appropriate<br>
&gt; timezone offset will be applied. If it is set to &#39;LOCAL&#39; then Gentoo<br>
&gt; assumes (and it has to) that the HWClock is set to the correct local<br>
&gt; time, including the correct Daylight Saving correction.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So, if Gentoo was running at the time of the clock change then the<br>
&gt; system time would have changed from Summer to Winter time. However, if<br>
&gt; Gentoo was not running and you booted it this morning then it would,<br>
&gt; legitimately, assume that HW Clock had been set to the correct local<br>
&gt; time prior to it be booted. When you booted into MSWindows, it changed<br>
&gt; the time on the HW Clock to be Winter time (ie it put it back 1 hour),<br>
&gt; so that next time you booted into Gentoo the HW clock was set to the<br>
&gt; correct local time. With CLOCK=&quot;LOCAL&quot;, when you boot for the first time<br>
&gt; after a Summer/Winter time change, Gentoo has no way to telling whether<br>
&gt; or not something else (eg MSWindows or manually via the BIOS setup) has<br>
&gt; already changed the HW clock to Summer/Winter time.<br>
<br>
</div></div>Thank you Graham for your very detailed reply!  I understand now why the<br>
problem exists.  I have used the registry change suggested by Nuno on Win7 and<br>
will see what gives next time DST changes.  I just hope that it&#39;ll work<br>
without having *both* OS shifting the clock by one hour ...<br>
<br>
The more I read this page[1] the more I am tempted to format MSWindows out of<br>
this box whether the warranty is still valid or not!<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/%7Emgk25/mswish/ut-rtc.html" target="_blank">http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/mswish/ut-rtc.html</a><br>
--<br>
Regards,<br>
<font color="#888888">Mick<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>You guys had me scared for a bit.  But I&#39;m in the USA, where the change happens in<br>the morning of the first Sunday in November, which will be the 7th.<br><br>I can wait.<br><br>++ kevin<br>
<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Kevin O&#39;Gorman, PhD<br><br>