From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OeIov-0005wI-Gb for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:26:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 70144E09F3; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pz0-f53.google.com (mail-pz0-f53.google.com [209.85.210.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44416E09F3 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk9 with SMTP id 9so42142pzk.40 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:24:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=s+C8pcrHnh4BD01h2vXC8+cIYA9BFwHbpea7HPqF8jY=; b=VIJAojEc4F3R236aleawZCsI/S/Qr4YazCII6n+LNibjL3O2wt3xMEZpC2CkIL7iS+ KfGPH7OenO2QBAOHApfFI28GLOv/Ydlup0gDboR6qLv4VZxkVYv0r57CvWlkLFK9pzXr Vn3V23fYfO5k2dq1ACc7JDuguDc906E/mkwTw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=P/xik6qIiz3OTN+N3eKAzLvD3NMF7qcFp/HePO5LNaVoEBQYauY9Au2Mra11hlFuyn XGhY5ppNQqPUPYcFTuJU7CkZxC1WXdxnsJPtJFhBC/nMa23AbJkO0h6oFz9WdW7jySmx XUQDZYU+C1yqeQEuCqL8jU6wqa+k7MEREQkHc= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.13.15 with SMTP id 15mr2062828wfm.300.1280370299621; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.166.19 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:24:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100728182346.751a4d8a@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:24:59 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL From: sam new To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd20d68e3d05b048c7d70cd X-Archives-Salt: e4ab45f2-d92d-4c27-b6cd-4246b7ae31ba X-Archives-Hash: 99a379acf000cbbd06147e9321804665 --000e0cd20d68e3d05b048c7d70cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "They think that they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB hotplugging/automounting working",in Xorg 1.8, udev will replace HAL . we can use devicekit-disks package to mount USB stick or CD,USE polkit-gnome or ntfs3g to mount NTFS filesystem. so HAL is not needed.may be modify gnome-mount ebuild ,remove HAL depedency and put it in local OVERLAY .maybe slove the problem. On 29 July 2010 02:50, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> >> And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna >>> eat your cat. >>> >> >> Although it may kill your crew. >> > > I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for. They think that > they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB hotplugging/automounting > working. But that's wrong. Gnome/KDE use HAL for this, not X. And if you > disable HAL completely, that stuff will stop working. > > > --000e0cd20d68e3d05b048c7d70cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "They think that they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB hot= plugging/automounting working",in Xorg 1.8, udev will replace HAL=A0 .= =A0we can use devicekit-disks package to mount USB stick or CD,USE polkit-g= nome or ntfs3g=A0 to mount NTFS filesystem. so HAL is not needed.may be mod= ify gnome-mount ebuild ,remove HAL depedency and=A0put it in local OVERLAY = .maybe slove the problem.

On 29 July 2010 02:50, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +03= 00, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

And why do you want to remove it= in the first place? =A0It's not gonna
eat your cat.

Although it may kill your crew.

I think most = people don't understand what X used HAL for. =A0They think that they ca= n remove HAL and still have stuff like USB hotplugging/automounting working= . =A0But that's wrong. =A0Gnome/KDE use HAL for this, not X. =A0And if = you disable HAL completely, that stuff will stop working.



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