From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OeDfO-0005SD-FR for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:55:54 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26B0CE0835; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A1DE0835 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb36 with SMTP id 36so5863980wyb.40 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:55:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uFiqm7lzNlfncHxgJXx37NoZxY8FOlyphLCuLno6N70=; b=vl7H7DSu/f7XX6EHHYbCAGokFgs5qHmAD3yLG5jhNjVvqckLfjTx5cmHX8NuI67Ss7 5+VOGTZjk4Ry/T+QDDJx4/5/uIqM+hH8/lgIXlU0Ei/5J5gX8pT0X0/s3Qq5ERPlqR+u IrNlS/Z/NrsMmaLeRgpWiyfqYWsHQ6LXxuJRk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rjoHnl4hALku5fJlFjOBFDt7agiFqt9aFjyvHJ+8VcMc+njvuAa61+3Fh6I11IZwZ7 F00Qonkbx/+4VEB5gHDj4G8U4oA3yCMnyjH1qb1bh09lXkb19yA23gZLJ1VXRoDp/2YV Dd+1tgEewSL/K0mI8BQSygv0X+0RADYtTcLNY= Received: by 10.216.178.199 with SMTP id f49mr11197131wem.110.1280350507141; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.233.97 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:54:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100728182346.751a4d8a@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> From: Andrey Vul Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:54:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 9df9bdf2-7556-4f4e-85d2-b9290e0c2de2 X-Archives-Hash: e01d6c672a92d72166222a4d328eb5bf On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 14:50, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> >>> And why do you want to remove it in the first place? =C2=A0It's not gon= na >>> eat your cat. >> >> Although it may kill your crew. > > I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for. =C2=A0They thin= k that > they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB hotplugging/automountin= g > working. =C2=A0But that's wrong. =C2=A0Gnome/KDE use HAL for this, not X.= =C2=A0And if you > disable HAL completely, that stuff will stop working. > > E.g. solid-hardware for HAL-mounting devices by uuid/volume-id. I just got rid of policykit - too much trouble. But I kept HAL because it's very useful.