From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ot7xN-0000SZ-4N for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:52:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B83B2E0AF8; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iw0-f181.google.com (mail-iw0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DF8E0AF8 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so7388700iwn.40 for ; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:51:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jxfXpiKsPu9PiGceID5dLafLgjGtOg/HWFJNdOQW6B0=; b=HbmuVhuGAj/lj2JR/LlN8t5xH3q1CbHhQhOnPmTe33buVxzjRhTWb0CkPNTPbDrLJl EmOz2WsleTVnJyoKzPX24guCikBzM+C4ouISoz6vvJ6vZYPcE8SGiVrC65mSpi+JK8/P mAnj+92RyxSfA5wtUwd4wwBycDIZnncuTPWeM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ajNYi7HVuHM8nzsfi23XAWlZd0Q2lNZn3cZhxifVx2utrNcVcAeI6+8MIRuglA6vw1 8vbtMP7jaH6tyDrVLxlVQICXNe4RoIH8v1MHBIKHlXFHI14cvbbW5rmR/KdjvlY2aWyP +OnYgHPzQ8byTbHpyMDZ/BNZHlKlk+nj1PYdg= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.15.9 with SMTP id i9mr8476730iba.58.1283903468954; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.37.138 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:51:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009072320.54829.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> References: <201009071840.12491.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <201009072320.54829.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 01:51:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo From: Al To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: cd9f8a85-bac1-4b84-8837-b06f9cfc3748 X-Archives-Hash: 50cb8c89f7fef92c87a0ac4261b27ff0 >> > So it really does come down to portage after all. Portage has a hard >> > dependency on bash. portage is intimately wrapped up in the linux way of >> > doing things. >> >> Right, we have to say Bash. To be exact Bash is GNU not Linux. I >> genarally say Linux not Gnu-Linux. However in this case the difference >> matters. >> >> http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/ > > I fail to see how this is relevant. Portage requires bash, not sh. Did I say sh? It matters that portage depends on bash not on linux. Bash is available on Win and Mac. > So you don't work at a Tier 1 ISP then? Definitly not. I rather work at the other end, the desktop. Never seen anything bigger then a PC. > I never said porting portage could not be done, I said it would be hard work. It is challenging, but not to difficult so far. > I don't see the point of portage on FreeBSD frankly, considering the general > use-case where FreeBSD shines. ports is more than adequate for that and I > don't need the maintenance overhead of portage on machines requiring weekly > updates. I don't build embedded systems or need highly customized OSes. > I wouldn't port it to BSD either. If I want to reach many people I still have to start with windows. > In fact, portage is complete overkill and I refuse to allow it to be deployed > at work. Check my posting history for the rationale behind this. What is gentoo if you substract portage? I am courious now. Al