From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PtKrF-0005EG-Jb for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:10:54 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C02AF1C080 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DBD1C001 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:54:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb29 with SMTP id 29so298411wwb.10 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:54:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+CHP6WP+GGfAKsclDrowmw4zj9a7CvI33fu7pT45Qfs=; b=AOmJJoXPLi0DJ/VgkYTKScOkm752/fWB+rV/OdGVq5mVixrsxZ8gu6QDYnD3717t/8 +syXp1lRn+IeMeYyW+fSjAkYkD3Njq2tYw0B88yRb9YRoY+R7YlttFTN7y9/nfI10x3h jCkX7Rcfxv2pWPkbYVvd88YwkBph43VChuFME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=feizzz48/VK+UPmKqassg/OuAotGEMUS4Tc0RFGYSEO1t+tdKGUW7MRUhRQHGM2zDE rlaRQGSOqJE9QpMVNp8Q70P5+PJNa3j+EZqLq0p9PmGp1r+Cjr81XI6gd0k97PPRSzdj COoO+V+N7mrJcL90zYKrSI4AB4AtLIvhG3cZk= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.9 with SMTP id v9mr457564wee.73.1298728448236; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:54:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.90.136 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:54:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D687D33.9030308@gmail.com> References: <20110223122538.428a246b@digimed.co.uk> <4D652E4C.6010206@gmail.com> <20110224020850.GA13228@waltdnes.org> <4D664FC8.7050405@gmail.com> <4D665352.8070209@darkmetatron.de> <4D66570A.3030506@gmail.com> <20110224145551.2a749647@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <4D667792.6040805@gmail.com> <20110224161218.27a679a0@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <4D669691.4000209@gmail.com> <20110225010803.GA15423@waltdnes.org> <4D687D33.9030308@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:54:07 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set? From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Dale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: a349c5957b7d71f4d901017389df9f4e On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Dale wrote: > Not to long ago, there was only a 150 or so > packages for system regardless of the USE flags. I think that you are just mistaken about this point. I have pretty much always been able to make @system package count blow up by turning on lots of flags. As I say, my server has >350 packages in @system including X and gnome stuff because of flags. The KDE laptop I just did for my mom has around 190, no X, no gnome, etc. It's all in the flag choices. But why worry? In the old days I did worry because the machines were slower and I couldn't do an @world update very often. Today on a modern processor I can rebuild @world with 900 packages in a few hours. It's not as big a deal anymore (to me anyway) that @system seems a little bloated. It's not bloated when you build a new system. It's only after you start making flag choices that it happens. - Mark