From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3w28-0000eS-FT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 19:53:56 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D2941C04C; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 19:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iy0-f181.google.com (mail-iy0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FA61C04C for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 19:50:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so3769395iyb.40 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:50:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=R+rnzL9AvbfGGSeL7HQvI1QtnXU4gkAkyNi9KJn3goA=; b=Y+xisIt0zO2Y/vWttwMY6ylLLEt/Tq9YwhRn6GW649DR9VjItabn3SVKSHHhu0/9jn obIz0w0RH1xM0VVI7EyPMFVoOKWsw3mrLml5uiUkQWUJzruXdeCF+mx30gk10zYYoc1b W3qMzSzDagCCloEb9Lsxu5/dHp3tJIT54kTl8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=by6ouICCbLoD06VM8TLxt2OHdwvx8epiXmMYnys3l4t6cCHcFb8XRpi2LI96c+0ELh myrZj5ZQB/4n0Le/5BCD06X2goFdq6lKlho9JSyckWZnHSmfCP4cX06DD+HfaN/AKvVo AzuQAnaNiWAoPn+chmbMfbUuRz2Pej0tJPXsw= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.169.132 with SMTP id b4mr1374893icz.274.1301255457803; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.225.134 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:50:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110327202519.2bc466d7@digimed.co.uk> References: <4D8BE1B3.80807@gmail.com> <201103252009.50877.stephane@22decembre.eu> <20110325203811.3239e4fc@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <20110326211654.589a147f@digimed.co.uk> <20110327004415.00739ed6@digimed.co.uk> <20110327202519.2bc466d7@digimed.co.uk> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:50:57 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.7 && python-updater From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Neil Bothwick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 60ee7217361ecaf8626ff9c27b07ebea On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:26:10 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> > Manual means manually added to the list by python-updater, rather than >> > using any sort of detection. >> > >> >> OK, I won't bother with the many definitions of the word manual or how >> that effects the conversation from my end 'cause that don't matter >> much to Linux man-page writers. ;-) > > I agree that describing an automated default as manual is somewhat less > than intuitive... > Yep. Generously I'd say they meant something like 'from a manual of known apps', etc., but clearly other words like 'list' might have been more intuitive, at least to me. >> However I'm still failing to see >> the interest in this as it only removes 1 or 4 packages (boost) that >> I've rebuilt multiple time. 75% of the failures still fail using >> -dmanual. >> >> c2stable ~ # python-updater -p -dmanual >> =C2=A0* Starting Python Updater... >> =C2=A0* Main active version of Python: =C2=A02.7 >> =C2=A0* Active version of Python 2: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2.7 >> =C2=A0* Active version of Python 3: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3.1 >> =C2=A0* =C2=A0 Adding to list: app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0 >> =C2=A0* =C2=A0 Adding to list: app-emulation/virtualbox:0 >> =C2=A0* =C2=A0 Adding to list: app-office/openoffice-bin:0 >> =C2=A0* =C2=A0 Adding to list: app-office/openoffice-bin:0 > > I've also been hit by the first, as I think I mentioned. As for the other > two, re-emerging a binary package won't help at all, because it's a binar= y > package, so you unpack it rather than rebuild it. That's more a problem > with using binary packages on a source distro than a fault of > python-updater itself. Understood and agreed. For OO I couldn't quite get up the interest to start building from scratch though. Something like 450MB of things to download and then what, do it again in a week or two? Not worth it for my needs. Thanks for all the insights. I do appreciate your inputs. Cheers, Mark