From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ORaGu-0002na-Ew for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:26:24 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B1F0FE0A87; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-px0-f181.google.com (mail-px0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6146FE0A87 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi10 with SMTP id 10so1122839pxi.40 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:25:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LESAjT7Jkl6MPGR62d9UAj8JE8TrrBtN2qS5s58mWmU=; b=WI858UAf7dM1bnUMee5YRSn9D7+iBV25j5+eTsJ0/Vqv0+jvAMVtu5TlFy8ZzcBhxm Z1+/fi2r3+CO1ujkwtKKtNtAdL16ZuuvRm0X9uvRiL1TLkIwa+jzFuYQaIbn3S6c80yf jHIrdKaY4Zk22NAHZ+1gU0b4L1XC2DA/gFaDc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xYbAm6bb23Fni9z/EjZU27IgmOLkUZtHxMVeMjXy/uX7UzKcQVlPmB4lKhB6bDKg5S L6E2Su29A7D5JfhQ6um/eeYbNdbwWdRIiRzyCh381ekxJxdLxH8z7ic6Tzw+Lk96IiYa wJ/aDlhikbxu//7vkWEDTykdBpaFHbN0m1+fU= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.249.40 with SMTP id w40mr7952184wfh.322.1277339124640; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.98.3 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:25:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C228CD3.3030500@xunil.at> References: <4C21317C.2010100@xunil.at> <4C227495.6010706@xunil.at> <4C228CD3.3030500@xunil.at> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:25:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] core i5 From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 32cdb80d-090e-47b1-b6fd-67b52c564e5f X-Archives-Hash: ff91c2c683349c77df2227b5115bc538 On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 24.06.2010 00:13, schrieb Mark Knecht: > >>> I don't know if the builtin graphics will allow gaming on the same >>> level, I should go for some benchmark results. But this is >>> definitely not important ... just a nice to have feature maybe. >> >> Depending on the MB you choose - I'm using an Intel DH55HC - you >> might not even get access to the built-in graphics chip. It requires >> certain chipsets and then certain connection on the MB and not all >> Core i5 MB's that accept the i5-661 have it. I'm sure you know that >> already but maybe the info is helpful for others later. > > I knew part of it ;-) > > I preferred Intel boards for years now and wasn't disappointed. > > Maybe this time I chose a Lenovo machine with 3 yrs support ...? > > M90p they call it, I don't know .... > >> The DH55HC has been a pretty good MB over the last 4-5 months that >> I've been running the machine and the graphics are OK. They were not >> so good 5 months ago but the driver has gotten noticeably better. > > Windows driver, I assume? > No, I was speaking of the IntelGFX drivers. Sorry for any confusion. Although I am somewhat forced to use this machine most of the time running Windows I've tried to keep my comments mostly directed toward running MythTV & Gentoo. >>> So you run "make -j13" or something? >> >> Exactly. -j13. However there are things to learn about machine >> configuration at this level. The disk systems start operating >> differently when you have a lot of memory. I'm running 24GB of DRAM >> on that machine and this effects the way the kernel looks at write >> back to disk and what not. No problems, just new things to learn. > > interesting. > > How do you use up 24 gigs of DRAM? > Just tell me, I would like to justify that for me as well ;-) > 5 copies of Win7 running in vmware VMs. Each VM gets 20GB of RAID0, 2 processors and 4GB of RAM. That's 100GB, 20GB DRAM and 10 threads total. I then have 2 i7-980X threads & 4GB DRAM for running Gentoo as the host. Gentoo runs on RAID1 and I have an additional RAID1 which I use to back up the RAID0 daily. >> I've wanted to check out compiz but haven't had the time to learn. >> One down side to running Gentoo is that you cannot do much of >> anything like that without considerable study before hand... > > Sure ... compiz is part eyecandy, part useful little features. I got > used to the features (=would somehow miss them) and the eyecandy (= "ah, > yes, it rotates ... hmm, sure ..."). > > :-) > >> For the price it's been a good purchase I think. I've run Windows XP >> and Win 7 in vmware and the speed is pretty close to identical on >> the apps I use. (Mostly TradeStation) I won't do live stock trading >> in Win 7 under Gentoo yet but maybe one of these days. It's been very >> stable but for safety most of the time when I'm trading I just run >> Win 7 native. > > dualboot then. Haven't booted Windows for months here. Should maybe do > and do some gaming instead of hacking around ... > Yeah, dual boot is what I'm doing with the i5-661. The i7-980X only runs Gentoo and if I need Windows it's in the 5 VMs described above. The 980X is expensive to run. It's got 5 hard drives in it (2 for RAID0, 3 for RAID1) plus the processor and all that memory burns over 300W at idle. Cheers, Mark > ;-) > > Thanks, greets, Stefan > >