From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OvkCS-0005bI-VV for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 05:06:29 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4AFE8E0C58 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 05:06:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw0-f53.google.com (mail-gw0-f53.google.com [74.125.83.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912BCE0D54 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwaa18 with SMTP id a18so3712334gwa.40 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:08:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZJuc63LYawaWgGL8TCoFT9WgVHooPEci4Xg28G4Tpho=; b=Z4PG1wjl7i1FwH7ibnjMiT445je+k4r6DHfmKMF+I2kocz95EUtA63lR4+5kgilI0w Spuvm4Ih1u9BG5x7558O8LFFRuVecMOmFOgqHJi6ooGCH+oIadGGwym2j4oxG86bd8my uRSD8N8gfMmRuMSZbpUcqi1b4RxS4lw1iSDQ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DSGpQMkGubeOIZz2gYGWHBt3z5l5dMnTjExx1LsU4j4DdhLE/iTBKEBRpKCshkANaz t0GXEnQteHVvTAeT9vIdSAItHcqJeXYn8PdqBtuLzFeQ3r1vIGwft7QW+HpkMdywONt7 5Ae9m61ccdQ9j/pyjk79WtsbKzaCwavCm8ml8= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.148.2 with SMTP id v2mr1233261ybd.184.1284523687223; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.196.19 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:08:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100915001341.GB5559@solfire> References: <20100913184708.GA5542@solfire> <20100915001341.GB5559@solfire> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:08:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Some problems while migrating to 64bit From: Bill Longman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd51a521520c10490447a8c X-Archives-Salt: 6d2d2713-ab29-4d5b-a097-2b7ab16fae47 X-Archives-Hash: 56e82f02a9339be7cc14cf1c718d1cc5 --000e0cd51a521520c10490447a8c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:13 PM, wrote: > Jes??s J. Guerrero Botella [10-09-15 > 01:49]: > > 2010/9/13 : > > > 1.) The fonts of mrxvt are microscopic tiny...my home and .mrxvt > > > remained the same. Are fonts not reported to "world" when emerged? > > > What are the basic fonts I need before buying new glasses? > > > > Maybe you forgot some use flag or something. To use truetype fonts in > > mrxvt you need to turn that flag on. I also have no idea about mrxvt, > > but most terminal emulators read their configs from ~/.Xdefaults, > > check the mrxvt man page and/or docs. > > > > > > > 2.) Mouse does not work. Hald is up, fdi-rules are copied from my old > > > system, /dev/input/mice is there, gpm (started for a test) sees > > > the mouse, xf86-input-mouse is recompiled, dbus is running. > > > What's wrong? X.org.log reports "no device defined for mouse"... > > > my xorg.conf does not define such...but it is the same xorg.conf, > > > which works under 32bit env. > > > So.... > > > > So, latest Xorg doesn't use hal. I can't be sure since you are not > > telling us what xorg version you are using. Since 1.8 X uses udev > > instead. > > > > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide= .xml > > > > > > > 3.) Keyboard behaves somehow strange. German Umlauts works, but "|" > > > does not...it performs something like a crazy backspace or so. > > > And a UNIX without a working pipe is not really making me happy... > > > > If it happens only under X, then it's the same issue that you have > > with your mouse. Configure it using the new method. > > > > > > > 4.) As someone already reports to the list: k3b does not find any > > > burner, cdrom, dvd-drive. /dev/sr0 exist and is linked to dvd. > > > > Probably a k3b and/or udev issue. I can't help with this one. But I > > think I've seen something about k3b lately in the forums. Might worth > > a check. > > > > > I even can boot from dvd... > > > > That's nothing to do with linux, but your BIOS. A different land. > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > -- > > Jes=C3=BAs Guerrero Botella > > > > Hi, > > thank you for your reply and explanations, Jesus! :) > > The problems are nearly gone in the meanwhile: The HAL-flag > was missing for the xorg-sevrer (1.7), after that mouse was > recognized and the keyboard was fully functional (with pipes) again. > > Fonts: I simply missed to install a couple of fonts. But why they > was not in my old "world" file...dont know. > > k3b: Fixed. It is an issue with dbus having not enough rights > to rebort to hald which again was used by a user-land application > like k3b. I "fixed" this by badly manipulation /etc/dbus-1/system.conf > (see other mail from me of today). > > So my system now seems to work under 64bit. Rendering becomes 30% faster! > Oh yeah! ;) > > Best regards, > mcc > > > So, in the long run, would you say you saved any time? How fast can you install fresh 64 bit gentoo compared to your hop-step-jump that you did? I'= d be interested to know. --=20 Bill Longman --000e0cd51a521520c10490447a8c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:13 PM, <meino.cramer@gmx.de<= /a>> wrote:
Jes??s J. Guerrero Botella <jesus.guerrero.botella@gmail.com> [10-09-15 01:49]:
> 2010/9/13 =C2=A0<meino.crame= r@gmx.de>:
> > 1.) The fonts of mrxvt are microscopic tiny...my home and .mrxvt<= br> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0remained the same. Are fonts not reported to "w= orld" when emerged?
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0What are the basic fonts I need before buying new gl= asses?
>
> Maybe you forgot some use flag or something. To use truetype fonts in<= br> > mrxvt you need to turn that flag on. I also have no idea about mrxvt,<= br> > but most terminal emulators read their configs from ~/.Xdefaults,
> check the mrxvt man page and/or docs.
>
>
> > 2.) Mouse does not work. Hald is up, fdi-rules are copied from my= old
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0system, /dev/input/mice is there, gpm (started for a= test) sees
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0the mouse, xf86-input-mouse is recompiled, dbus is r= unning.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0What's wrong? X.org.log reports "no device = defined for mouse"...
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0my xorg.conf does not define such...but it is the sa= me xorg.conf,
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0which works under 32bit env.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0So....
>
> So, latest Xorg doesn't use hal. I can't be sure since you are= not
> telling us what xorg version you are using. Since 1.8 X uses udev
> instead.
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop= /x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide.xml
>
>
> > 3.) Keyboard behaves somehow strange. German Umlauts works, but &= quot;|"
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0does not...it performs something like a crazy backsp= ace or so.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0And a UNIX without a working pipe is not really maki= ng me happy...
>
> If it happens only under X, then it's the same issue that you have=
> with your mouse. Configure it using the new method.
>
>
> > 4.) As someone already reports to the list: k3b does not find any=
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0burner, cdrom, dvd-drive. /dev/sr0 exist and is link= ed to dvd.
>
> Probably a k3b and/or udev issue. I can't help with this one. But = I
> think I've seen something about k3b lately in the forums. Might wo= rth
> a check.
>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0I even can boot from dvd...
>
> That's nothing to do with linux, but your BIOS. A different land.<= br> >
>
> Regards.
>
>
> --
> Jes=C3=BAs Guerrero Botella
>

Hi,

thank you for your reply and explanations, Jesus! :)

The problems are nearly gone in the meanwhile: The HAL-flag
was missing for the xorg-sevrer (1.7), after that mouse was
recognized and the keyboard was fully functional (with pipes) again.

Fonts: I simply missed to install a couple of fonts. But why they
was not in my old "world" file...dont know.

k3b: Fixed. It is an issue with dbus having not enough rights
to rebort to hald which again was used by a user-land application
like k3b. I "fixed" this by badly manipulation /etc/dbus-1/system= .conf
(see other mail from me of today).

So my system now seems to work under 64bit. Rendering becomes 30% faster! Oh yeah! ;)

Best regards,
mcc



So, in the long run, would you say you saved any tim= e? How fast can you install fresh 64 bit gentoo compared to your hop-step-j= ump that you did? I'd be interested to know.

-- Bill Longman
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