From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6NoZ-0003RR-JW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:58:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 00431E0630; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:56:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iw0-f181.google.com (mail-iw0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9E7E0630 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:56:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn2 with SMTP id 2so6194006iwn.40 for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 06:56:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Jn++mi9dyiIfWp3y1ipeh4U/O1nDpMwJ+ZGCzOslbq4=; b=UU3ze5Cm5KJgT4sN4b7xTrqwJFjeVWD7H8ch/RaIqQcADHRM+M6R8aBZ2u5bePXrrj 01dsZsnch2v0ln6NBqJx++Olj6rU5pM+vJZOM5sckTSgfePCjqnux663SI8yRYLurLAB BZn34USGcK+BceWXtdZWLXka87mXGRGi3+2gU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=ZXEeEjvWI4525aSmjQdVjUCG1XPMar6IuAn1SzDeM3vH7Hq4kmOTKOqCTF/jPDKP+b PYGzk1z8N8nO9T4CxTqsPhChgzTiwBdfEIGFzKVXrnXePzaaZ0noJLMkl6PAt/rJFGrn FXMyUpRM0vw7tpXhonVVrfzTd4AWrE0iKHlW8= Received: by 10.43.61.79 with SMTP id wv15mr6464853icb.229.1301838960231; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 06:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.219.129 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 06:55:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4D93B505.1000100@gmail.com> References: <20110330184604.GA676@gaurahari> <4D93B505.1000100@gmail.com> From: Kfir Lavi Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:55:40 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Valmor de Almeida Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51f96d9c7831304a0040059 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 3727bb275729118978db31502c6a0721 --bcaec51f96d9c7831304a0040059 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: > On 03/30/2011 02:46 PM, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:40:02PM +0200, Robin Atwood wrote: > >> I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone > >> else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the > hardware > >> worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about > >> WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser > >> concern. Currently I have a "Linux Certified" machine but I want to > >> avoid shipping costs to the UK. > >> > > > > I've always had the best luck with the hardware support for > > thinkpads (and dell inspirons, though they're kind of clunky > > and cheesy). Can't vouch for the new ones though, it's been > > a few years since I upgraded. > > > > I've been using a thinkpad X201; WiFi works well and audio too. Don't > have a camera. There is a little problem configuring the touch pad > buttons for a left hand but it does not bother me. All in all a very > good machine under gentoo. > > -- > Valmor > > I have the X200. I use it with 8GB of ram, so all compilation of Gentoo system and Catalyst is done on the ram. Really good. 8GB cost me on ebay 90$ ! The wifi works good, but again as Valmor said there is no cam on the laptop. I also don't have touch pad, just the red stick. I like it that way. The computer goes to sleep, but I didn't tried to hibernate. I have also the X60s and it is a bad laptop. It gets really hot, fairly quickly, and it is very annoying. About the wifi: take care that the wifi card can be changed, as it is a pcie card. So if the laptop seems to be good for the buck, and the wifi is not what you want, you can just buy one of the good wifi cards on ebay and replace it on your new laptop. This of course will void the warranty ;-) Other thing you should consider is the battery life. In my Thinkpad x60s I have upgraded the battery to a 12cell big one, and it lasts about 7-9 hours. Such a battery is hard to fine for other brands of laptops. You will usually find them for thinkpads, I guess because their made for work. I think it cost me about 60$ or so on ebay. Regards, Kfir --bcaec51f96d9c7831304a0040059 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at= 12:56 AM, Valmor de Almeida <val.gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/30/2011 02:46 PM, Elaine C. Sharpe = wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:40:02PM +0200, Robin Atwood wrote:
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0I am in the market for a new laptop and would be inte= rested if anyone
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0else on the list had recently bought a laptop in whic= h all the hardware
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned= about
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation ar= e of lesser
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0concern. Currently I have a "Linux Certified&quo= t; machine but I want to
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0avoid shipping costs to the UK.
>>
>
> I've always had the best luck with the hardware support for
> thinkpads (and dell inspirons, though they're kind of clunky
> and cheesy). Can't vouch for the new ones though, it's been > a few years since I upgraded.
>

I've been using a thinkpad X201; WiFi works well and audio = too. Don't
have a camera. There is a little problem configuring the touch pad
buttons for a left hand but it does not bother me. All in all a very
good machine under gentoo.

--
Valmor

I have the X200. I use it with 8GB of ram, so all= compilation of Gentoo system and Catalyst
is done on the ram. Really go= od. 8GB cost me on ebay 90$ !
The wifi works good, but again as Valmor s= aid there is no cam on the laptop.
I also don't have touch pad, just the red stick. I like it that way. The computer goes to sleep, but I didn't tried to hibernate.
I hav= e also the X60s and it is a bad laptop. It gets really hot, fairly quickly,= and it is very annoying.

About the wifi: take care that the wifi card can be changed, as it is a= pcie card. So if the laptop seems
to be good for the buck, and the wif= i is not what you want, you can just buy one of the good wifi cards on
ebay and replace it on your new laptop. This of course will void the warran= ty ;-)

Other thing you should consider is the battery life. In my Th= inkpad x60s I have upgraded the battery to a 12cell
big one, and it last= s about 7-9 hours. Such a battery is hard to fine for other brands of lapto= ps. You will usually
find them for thinkpads, I guess because their made for work. I think it co= st me about 60$ or so on ebay.

Regards,
Kfir

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