From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ot237-00088Q-Fl for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:33:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54A2DE0C16; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:33:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pz0-f53.google.com (mail-pz0-f53.google.com [209.85.210.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22038E0C16 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk36 with SMTP id 36so2663901pzk.40 for ; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:33:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kZdU1w9a9E11r1XLrJ56z+SXzWMg7HX0Hs3eli3pxjk=; b=XaZWtllH5u+QQnbwQ1UpvvUtmxnEHgTs9rFr+zTeoG4PV0uJMfUB0PJjIwgqvjuUEz 3zC1z0iJKKZSLgm87+CJBJMNHBkM9j2iMFZERkGzq5+lDQ1RZb7v+zZO5fnPRMsWeW7K QJ77IXzwtfLOfHuwRiTH5vYhxu17CmYk7JRBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uzJVF8Bqow/+hogPlOH1jquI6hzVARVa11s03Iw08Uc2ZniTvdQYMRadp/VOf8NB8u N+n1EGet6nxbyv+22pKhbJjVZ3ihMgGvNRcOLWO4QVbRhgl1ah8HcXXqvFJOsS3uXVsW PClaSCwnZS/IOtuYLUKg/5ozbjaERsKxxNx+E= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.230.4 with SMTP id c4mr8103wfh.312.1283880790538; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.37.138 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:33:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009071854.15874.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> References: <201009071854.15874.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 19:33:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant From: Al To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: cbbdf6b9-796c-4dd8-bb3c-1a9e09d1e33c X-Archives-Hash: 0291f35df22fb68e5e4476507f6380ae Hi Alan, > You are self-confessed new to Linux and Volker already spotted by are likely I am self-confessed new to Gentoo, but I use Linux for over 10 years as my main OS. Still I don't have all the insight, what is going on under the hood. > new to Linux as well. You are not (yet) part of this community for real, and > you have no street cred in this meritocracy. What you need to do now is > > I've been here for 4 years. I'm one of the conceited loud-mouths and I still > get myself regularly bitch-slapped by people who are just as good as I am. > From that position, I actually feel quite personally offended by your > attitude. I've earned some of my attitude stripes. You have yet to begin. I am not interested to offend you and I really don't want to discredet your merits. However, I think you should not take it personally when I express my opinion, that advertising a mailinglist only has it's influence to the discussion. How is that related to your merits? Then when you think a loud-mouth yourself, you shouldn't that quickly be offended. Right? We can all learn something from outsiders. If you take me more or less seriously, is not that import for me as I haven't 4 years of merit on this list. I take you seriously. I know what I can. I know what I contribute and contributed in other communities. Be calling the thread a rand I show that I am not taking the whole topic that seriously myself, but important enough to reflect about. Finally I really stay in one single thread tody, that I started and that has a lot of response. Everybody has the freedom to ignore this single thread and should not be bothered about. If that is not possible -> see my theses. Al