From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OFSFR-0005T0-Mg for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 13:26:45 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8368BE0638; Fri, 21 May 2010 18:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gy0-f181.google.com (mail-gy0-f181.google.com [209.85.160.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663D4E0638 for ; Fri, 21 May 2010 18:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so534422gyg.40 for ; Fri, 21 May 2010 11:26:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=skDWPBgiKvNb2ECQ0i2iWljmNQrohiR2aZAuoIvhTrs=; b=lbFv0LJi92ai0wl9dcBiXcu6kj0KiZaGkfVmtD3/6/l5IqGwxO/uNZVqIhD9cbehFb aPLiL6vOMLYC4EGJ4GTI9jIuM7j48TBe2epO6/8GxE6KrMtMH4q40ofrkYkxGzfcWHxt z26NsmNrTxNdcFhOdtEc+a2EmYPeqtogAyGy0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Na9x4whu3pPLkAr1MGaa9+1WELOIuReDuIm4C3aqk8FX7Pt2VDlebS9qqc/84iMkQ+ 1S0mD8I9s/TQhwmOvxuO6cz3QwJI+UP8DxrrBP7R5ASl3XfOUfjcYptbXJbi+pUYwq/T sYkBVCBZMVgzHDUFI7oE0i7N21L6pq/IeYs5Y= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.105.10 with SMTP id h10mr2353807anm.34.1274466375943; Fri, 21 May 2010 11:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.134.14 with HTTP; Fri, 21 May 2010 11:26:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201005192159.29314.koesterreich@gmx.net> <201005201313.21106.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 13:26:15 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 0597d82e-062e-4f4e-9dd0-1f8cf3f9798e X-Archives-Hash: 4cf51c70beb9c1250a3ec38528ea14bb On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Then why does dmix lag? > Then why does dmix lag? I don't know; I don't care. I don't use dmix, I use PulseAudio, and it takes care of everything in user space and I don't have to worry about anything. > I've tried it 6 days ago. =C2=A0Ubuntu 10.04. =C2=A0It's still a laggy, b= uggy, pile of > ****. =C2=A0First thing I did was to disable it. It doesn't lag here. It's rock solid stable. In all my computers, each one with completely different sound hardware. And I'm just using the ebuilds from Gentoo; I didn't configure *anything*. I didn't have to. Maybe Ubuntu has something wrong: Lennart complained that they "didn't get = it": http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/pa-in-ubuntu.html > Yes, you and many people also find it acceptable to run their games with > 10FPS, or to take their systems 1 minute to boot, etc. My games doesn't run at 10FPS, my laptop boot in seconds (and usually it's always suspended), my desktop and media center (specially the latter) boot very quickly also. Please don't speak about something you don't know anything about. > I am not one of those people. =C2=A0I don't like it when the sound lags. = =C2=A0You may > claim that it doesn't bother you. =C2=A0But you can't claim that it doesn= 't > happen. I can claim it: it doesn't happen *to me*. It works beautifully. I'm using Gentoo, with the following versions: media-sound/pulseaudio-0.9.21.1 sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.32.9 My sound card is : 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) (I'm on my laptop; don't have the specs of my desktop or media center, but the versions at least should be the same). I simply don't have any sound lags. > That doesn't mean ALSA is better. Again, I trust more the technical judgement from the kernel developers. No offense. > Then why don't they fix it? =C2=A0It's still crap after all this time. It's not in my case. Not at all. But (as I said in my last mail), this is Open Source; if you think it's crap, you can try to fix it. All I'm saying is that PulseAudio is a great sound architecture for Linux. It works great for me, in several hardware configurations; and in particular in my Media Center, which is my principal medium to listen to music. And I trust the judgement of the ones that decided to use ALSA+PulseAudio. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Instituto de Matem=C3=A1ticas Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico