Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.7 && python-updater

[Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>]

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:33:14 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> > Aren't those manually added to the list by python-updater? So you
>> > need to use -dmanual to prevent further rebuilding of them.
>
>> I guess I'm not clear on the use of 'manual' here.
>
> It's explained in the manual page (sorry :)
>
> Manual means manually added to the list by python-updater, rather than
> using any sort of detection.
>

OK, I won't bother with the many definitions of the word manual or how
that effects the conversation from my end 'cause that don't matter
much to Linux man-page writers. ;-) However I'm still failing to see
the interest in this as it only removes 1 or 4 packages (boost) that
I've rebuilt multiple time. 75% of the failures still fail using
-dmanual.

c2stable ~ # python-updater -p -dmanual
 * Starting Python Updater...
 * Main active version of Python:  2.7
 * Active version of Python 2:     2.7
 * Active version of Python 3:     3.1
 *   Adding to list: app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0
 *   Adding to list: app-emulation/virtualbox:0
 *   Adding to list: app-office/openoffice-bin:0
 *   Adding to list: app-office/openoffice-bin:0
 * emerge -Dv1 --keep-going -p app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0
app-emulation/virtualbox:0 app-office/openoffice-bin:0
app-office/openoffice-bin:0

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R    ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20110129
USE="-development" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ] app-office/openoffice-bin-3.3.0  USE="-gnome -java"
LINGUAS="en -ar -as -ast -be_BY -bg -bn -ca -ca_XV -cs -da -de -dz -el
-en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fi -fr -ga -gl -gu -he -hi -hu -id -is -it -ja
-ka -km -kn -ko -ku -lt -lv -mk -ml -mr -my -nb -nl -nn -oc -om -or
-pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -sh -si -sk -sl -sr -sv -ta -te -th -tr
-ug -uk -uz -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ~] app-emulation/virtualbox-4.0.4-r1  USE="additions
alsa opengl python qt4 sdk -doc -extensions -headless -java
-pulseaudio -vboxwebsrv -vnc" 0 kB

Total: 3 packages (3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB
c2stable ~ # python-updater -p
 * Starting Python Updater...
 * Main active version of Python:  2.7
 * Active version of Python 2:     2.7
 * Active version of Python 3:     3.1
 *   Adding to list: app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0
 *   Adding to list: app-emulation/virtualbox:0
 *   Adding to list: app-office/openoffice-bin:0
 *   Adding to list: app-office/openoffice-bin:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-libs/boost:1.42
 *     check: manual [Added to list manually, see CHECKS in manpage
for more information.]
 * emerge -Dv1 --keep-going -p app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0
app-emulation/virtualbox:0 app-office/openoffice-bin:0
app-office/openoffice-bin:0 dev-libs/boost:1.42

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R    ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20110129
USE="-development" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ] dev-libs/boost-1.42.0-r2  USE="eselect python -debug
-doc -icu -mpi -static-libs -test -tools" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ] app-office/openoffice-bin-3.3.0  USE="-gnome -java"
LINGUAS="en -ar -as -ast -be_BY -bg -bn -ca -ca_XV -cs -da -de -dz -el
-en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fi -fr -ga -gl -gu -he -hi -hu -id -is -it -ja
-ka -km -kn -ko -ku -lt -lv -mk -ml -mr -my -nb -nl -nn -oc -om -or
-pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -sh -si -sk -sl -sr -sv -ta -te -th -tr
-ug -uk -uz -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ~] app-emulation/virtualbox-4.0.4-r1  USE="additions
alsa opengl python qt4 sdk -doc -extensions -headless -java
-pulseaudio -vboxwebsrv -vnc" 0 kB

Total: 4 packages (4 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB
c2stable ~ #



>> They are
>> automatically added. If they are correctly rebuilt then they shouldn't
>> need to be added a second time, correct? However they are. (Over and
>> over...)
>>
>> Basically, it is my understanding that if everything is correctly
>> updated then on the second pass it should say there's nothing to do,
>> right?
>
> If it can determine that that's the case, yes. Packages are added
> manually because python-updater cannot tell for sure whether they should
> be rebuilt this time. That's certainly true for ooo-bin and boost, lnd
> prevented by -dmanual. app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs seems
> different, I've just been hit by this one, so I ignored it after the
> first build. I suspect a bug has already been reported.
>

Fair enough. I'm also seeing Virtualbox as shown above.

Thanks for the info. I've done the python-updater steps too many times
now and from now on will basically do it just once and after that take
what it says with a grain of salt.

Cheers,
Mark